<p>petty...psh</p>
<p>"never said i hate ucla students."</p>
<p>not you MrTrojanMan, just USC students in general.</p>
<p>I'm not a pre-med student so I'm not going to consider USC for law school; however, jyancy, you're right that education trumps petty rivalry any day.</p>
<p>yes this is true - and a UCLA education trumps a USC education any day...</p>
<p>^ couldn't help myself :)</p>
<p>When it comes time to apply to med schools, I will probably spend about ~$2000 on apps and fees for 20+ schools. Since I am not as young as you guys I have to take the shotgun approach.</p>
<p>I'm planning to apply for 30+ schools and the cost of doing so will kill me :(. Shotgun approach?</p>
<p>i agree - shotgun approach is the way to go - and $2000 only? bah, it'll be way more than that when you factor in the cost of secondaries, flying around to interviews and hotels, etc.
It's all worth it though.</p>
<p>Ouch..the secondaries..forgot about that. I do interview well..so hopefully I won't have to do it too often. </p>
<p>And you are right, it is totally worth it. After all, that is why I am going to school right now, solely for the reason of being a doc.</p>
<p>Jyancy,
By shotgun approach I am referring to how its ammunition exits the weapon. A regular rifle or hand-gun fire a single bullet that is good for a long-range targeted shot. Whereas a shot gun fires buckshot. Buckshot is basically a bunch of tiny pieces of metal or that spread out very wide.</p>
<p>Think of the difference between setting the cap of a bottle of cleaner to stream or spray.</p>
<p>Ah gotcha exilio</p>
<p>I feel so left out of the loop. No pre-law students? Come on!</p>
<p>PRE-LAW!!!</p>
<p>i'm going to shotgun too if i can... apply all top 16 and then some california schools like usc, davis, hastings as well as local 3rd/4th tiers as matches and safeties. hopefully i can eliminate some apps from each category and limit myself below 20.</p>
<p>Kfc4u: I've never heard of Hastings until recently. And Davis has a good law program? As for USC, how impressive is their law school--in terms of academics?</p>
<p>And what would be a "safety" law school, assuming I do well in college 3.3-3.9?</p>
<p>I was thinking Georgetown because if I went to Georgetown and maintained a 3.4, I'm guranteed a spot at Georgetown Law school. How is Georgetown Law Center anyway?</p>
<p>And do are there any law schools that are "mid-range"?</p>
<p>So far, I've been thinking about UCLA, Boalt, Harvard, Yale, Stanford, Cornell, Georgetown, UPenn, NYU, Washington and Lee, University of Virginia, and Princeton. I need some help. I need to broaden my schools to include "safety" and "mid-range."</p>
<p>lol eiffel, i don't think princeton even has a law school...</p>
<p>hey kfc, we should meet sometime, i'm pre-law too. i actually live in your building and you're on my facebook list but I don't think we've ever met, heh.</p>
<p>Yup, you're right. It says in letters on the front page. They don't have a business school to. I wonder why.</p>
<p>I was thinking about the Woodrow Wilson school of Public and International Affairs, just in case law school didn't work out.</p>
<p>Thanks for letting me know Brandnew2.</p>
<p>So, what's your take on law schools and can you help with answering my questions?</p>
<p>Princeton is a lot more focused on undergraduate teaching than most top schools, which is why some would rather go there than Harvard/Yale or the like for undergrad.</p>
<p>Hastings is ranked lower than Davis, but I believe in the Bay Area, Hastings comes out on top over Davis (and behind Stanford and Boalt) and is still regarded as better. </p>
<p>USC law school is good... right behind UCLA. If you plan to practice in Los Angeles, both UCLA and USC law schools will serve you well. </p>
<p>as for a 3.3-3.9... its a HUGE range. also, i wouldn't be able to determine anything from that without your LSAT score. a 3.3 is on the low side... CA law schools like Loyola, USD, USF, Santa Clara, pacific, southwestern and chapman could be matches (that's a pretty broad range though--loyola is 2nd tier, chapman is 4th tier). CA safeties could be Cal Western, Golden Gate, Whittier, and Thomas Jefferson. i dont know much about non-CA law schools besides the good ones. </p>
<p>a 3.4 doesnt guarantee you to georgetown (where'd you hear of that? i wish it were true). georgetown is one of the top law schools in the country and is very competitive to get in (their LSAT range is higher than some schools ranked above it). </p>
<p>and princeton doesn't have a law school. but i believe some law schools do offer joint degrees with princeton's woodrow wilson school of public and international affairs (MIA/masters in international affairs). princeton's focus is undergrad education, so it lacks a lot of graduate and professional programs. </p>
<p>Brandnew2, send me a facebook message. that is kinda scary how you know who i am but i dont know who you are. haha</p>
<p>alright, sent you a facebook message</p>
<p>kfc4U: Georgetown's Early Assurance Program; if you attend Georgetown Undergrad and maintain a 3.8 (not a 3.4 which I mistyped), you're assured a spot at Georgetown Law without taking LSAT's. You apply as a Georgetown junior after your 1st semester.</p>
<p>Thanks so much for helping kfc4U.</p>
<p>New Law School rankings.</p>
<p>UCLA 10th Berkeley 13th.</p>
<p>UCLA now has a "clear edge" over Duke, Cornell, NU
UCLA has made more powerful faculty acquisitions over the last 10 years than any other law school in the Top 14. Since 1992, UCLA has acquired 5 young professors who are currently ranked in the Top 50 in terms of scholarly impact per citiation, including 3 in the Top 25 and one in the Top 10. The only school that comes close to matching these types of quality faculty acquisitions is Chicago, who acquired 4 profs in the Top 50, inclduing 2 in the Top 25 and 2 in the Top 10.
Furthermore, the acquisiting of 3 new tax profs has bumped UCLA's tax law program from #25 to #6 in the country.
<a href="http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_...cla_school.html%5B/url%5D">http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_...cla_school.html</a>
Prof. Leiter has commented on some of UCLA's latest acquisitions, including the addition of Michael Schill as Dean (who came from NYU), stating that UCLA now has a "clear edge" over Duke, Cornell, NU, in terms of faculty, and "may have a realistic shot at the top 10".
There are also rumors that Farber (an enviro-star at Boalt) might be migrating to UCLA, and that Nimmer might be assuming a full professorship teaching copyright next year. </p>
<p>excerpt
Another fine school appears to be stricken now: UCLA (whose new Dean, Michael Schill, has just moved from NYU--a fact which may simply be coincidental). A brochure has just arrived in faculty mailboxes nationwide announcing UCLA's "new faculty" hires--a good set of hires, as I've noted on two different occasions (here and here)</p>
<p>"UCLA School of Law is emerging as the strongest law faculty in the United States."
What? What about Yale, Harvard, Stanford, Chicago, Columbia, NYU? Not close. What about Michigan, Virginia, Texas, Penn, Berkeley, Georgetown? it seems to me, and I expect other informed observers, that UCLA has a clear edge now over Northwestern, Cornell, as well as Duke, of course.
By a reliable measure of faculty quality UCLA ranked 14th before these appointments, and by an unreliable measure, it ranked 16th (in "reputation" among academics). The new appointments are, indeed, good ones, and together with recent losses at Cornell, Northwestern, and Duke give UCLA a realistic shot at the top ten.</p>