<p>namaste - Just curious .. how does one (or all of the several people that you know) find out that it was a "connection" that enabled them to "get in". Did their acceptance letter state that they were accepted based on their connection? Or, due to their "connection", did they NOT even have to fill out an application? Or, were their grades/test scores so poor that the only way that they could have been accepted is via some connection? I am just curious how one finds out what SPECIFICALLY it was that secured the admission acceptance. Seeing as how you know several people who were accepted via their "connection", you must have strong evidence?</p>
<p>This kid is going to UCLA. What else could you expect him to say? Just ignore him.</p>
<p>Who, lovetocamp? I think s/he's a USC parent.</p>
<p>I think it's namaste who goes to UCLA.</p>
<p>Ohhhhhhh, gotcha. I understand the insult now. =)</p>
<p>UC Berkeley's on par with schools such as Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford and MIT in terms of education and international prestige. Berkeley can't be compared with UCLA nor USC.</p>
<p>If you want to use US News' rankings as a base for comparision, then UCLA is more respected in all academic areas, with the exception of engineering.</p>
<p>Yes, of course, US News is the ultimate authority. Anything they say goes.</p>
<p>Yeah, most of UCLA kids have this trait. They always have some people they know, or friend's friend to tell them something about USC even we at USC don't know. Some even venture to make up their stories to prove their credibility.</p>
<p>Just patting my head, I too think it would be reasonable for someone to make it into USC with CERTAIN LEVEL of connections. But how do I know about other's privacy, and what can I base to label others as getting in with connection? I did meet some kids from "incredibly rich families" (words of my faculty advisor). But they all look incredibly qualified to me. </p>
<p>I went to some USC alumni football forums before, and heard a lot of alums complaining their mighty qualified children can not get accepted into USC even they have donated huge amount of money over the years to their Alma Mater. Some even threatened not to donate any more. Now think about this, USC has more kids (percentage wise) from low income family than UCLA does. I even hope there are some one coming into USC with family donation to make the school better servin everybody. And I certainly there are.</p>
<p>I didn't say that everyone believes in US News' rankings, but in the U.S., their rankings are the most respected. I have never seen any other ranking, nationally or internationally, that placed USC over UCLA (with the exception of engineering).</p>
<p>Even using US News, USC is more respected, or on par with UCLA on most of professional majors, such as biz, film, music, comm, journalism, architecture, engineering, etc. For some area in science, USC is certainly better or catching up. Combined with the resource, and teaching quality here, I don't think anyone could make a wrong choice by coming to USC, if money is not the most important factor in your decision making.</p>
<p>Berkeley is not on par with any of the schools you listed at undergraduate level. Anyone who got into CAL should have a better understanding of themselves, and their calibers. Stop pretending you are better than you are.</p>
<p>I wasn't referring to Berkeley undergrad. Berkeley as a whole, grad included.</p>
<p>Business:
UCLA - 10
USC - 29</p>
<p>Law:
UCLA - 15
USC - 17</p>
<p>Education:
UCLA - 2
USC - 27</p>
<p>That's using US News. Sorry but USC is not more respected.</p>
<p>I know in law school rankings, a two-spot difference doesn't mean much.</p>
<p>"In 5 years, USC will be ranked ahead of UCLA AND Cal."</p>
<p>What a joke that is.</p>
<p>At work today, a co-worker shared with me that his neice will be going to UCSB this Fall. He indicated she will be moving in to the dorms the day before classes start. With no criticism of UCSB intended, compare that to USCs Welcome week, when the freshman move into the dorms.</p>
<p>Move in for UCSB is Saturday/Sunday (Sep 23/24) and classes start Thursday (Sep 28). UCSB also has a weclome week filled with activities. Your co-worker's niece might be arriving late but that doesn't mean UCSB doesn't have a welcome week.</p>
<p>Hmm, that's probably true. Most, if not all, colleges should have a welcome week. Jumping into classes right away is not so fun.</p>
<p>baboking: I'm not surprised at the language and personal attacks you made in your post. You said I ignored the rankings of the film school, accounting, "and so on." Well then, show me the rankings. You could only list two areas where USC is better, according to yourself.</p>
<p>Business Week (2006) has a list of Rankings for Top Business Schools. USC is ranked 21st. UCLA is not even on the list of 50 schools, not at all.</p>
<p>But i guess Fandango doesn't give much creedence to Business Week (after all, Businss Week only deals in the area of Business, and not in College Rankings). Surely, USNEWS knows more about Business Schools than Business Week.</p>
<p>Another Business School Rankings list. This time USC is ranked #20. And, once again UCLA is not on the list, not at all. It does have UC Davis #32, and UC Irvine #31, and even Berkeley. But no UCLA.</p>
<p>I'll tell you this, USC is definitely on the rise. For a long time USC was the "second class school" in L.A. behind UCLA. Overall, UCLA is still viewed as more of a "brainy" school over here in So. Cal, but that's just by reputation, which by most counts is changing in the favor of USC.</p>
<p>I think you've had enough cake for today so I'm going to stop feeding you it.</p>