<p>I hope you were being sarcastic about having an "okay" shot....lol. If your not, then I don't have a prayer.</p>
<p>hm...i hope i'm being sarcastic =P</p>
<p>If there's one thing I can take out of all of jdlkem's USNCO-related posts, it's that he loves to mess around with us laymen. :P</p>
<p>oh but i thought you were a pioneer in this field. that cant make you a layperson...stop grouping yourself with the others</p>
<p>you'll get hurt.</p>
<p>:)</p>
<p>That last post was intended to inflate your ego. Looks like it backfired, heh.</p>
<p>lol. perhaps.</p>
<p>WELL,</p>
<p>good luck to people who still have yet to take this test...
and we shall see what happens a week from monday or tuesday...</p>
<p>wow from the sounds of things i proabably won't make honors at all... :(</p>
<p>I thought my MC and FR were okay, but not compared to you 56-57 people -.-</p>
<p>I died on pt iii lab.</p>
<p>i hope my teacher will send me again next year... i'll definitely cram more esp. with atkins instead of my crappy zumdahl (worthless... doesn't explain anything clearly)</p>
<p>MC 50-55
FR 75-80
Lab Bad</p>
<p>A lot of people are badmouthing Zumdahl. I haven't seen Atkins, so I can't really make a complete judgment, but Zumdahl didn't seem so bad. It was definitely sufficient to get past the local (I got 64/70, t-2nd in Section, we use the USNCO local plus 10 extra probs).</p>
<p>AP Chem book is sufficient for honors or maybe high honors, but for making the camp you'll need atkins + orgo. Lots of orgo.</p>
<p>the ap chem book, depending on what it is, is good enough to make it to the camp.</p>
<p>orgo is not needed to make it to the camp.
atkins is recommended/the choice for several camp attendees</p>
<p>You don't think so? They're putting more and more orgo on the test each year. </p>
<p>That's a good thing btw, I've seen other nations' national exams and about half of each test is organic...the US has to keep up.</p>
<p>When do you guys think results will be out?</p>
<p>I believe they will be contacting us Monday if we made the top 20.</p>
<p>Anyone know when Honors (or not) will be notified?</p>
<p>Woodward-Hoffman + Mitsunobu >>>> IChO syllabus > ACS's stupid national exam scoring system > being forced to take the exam a week earlier than everyone else</p>
<p>I no longer feel disappointed.</p>
<p>O M G</p>
<p>Y A Y</p>
<p>I just got the package from my local div. I FREAKIN GOT HONORS :) and someone from our div got into camp. im 1 out of 2 honors :):) no high honors</p>
<p>I'll do better next year!!</p>
<p>actually...
have you ever even taken an icho exam?
it requires a lot more skill than just memorizing the woodward-hoffman rules for pericyclic reactions or the mitsunobu reaction mechanism...</p>
<p>hey how exactly does local for USNCO work</p>
<p>i heard its 2 people per school for local test...but lets say i get a 30/60 for local test(which is obviously reallly really bad), but only like 3 people at my school took it, so the 30/60 still was 2nd best...</p>
<p>will i still be able to take the USNCO test?</p>
<p>or is it they have to meet a certain score requirement+be top 2 in school?</p>
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actually...
have you ever even taken an icho exam?
it requires a lot more skill than just memorizing the woodward-hoffman rules for pericyclic reactions or the mitsunobu reaction mechanism...
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<p>lol just saw this</p>
<p>I was joking earlier...but I wouldn't expect you to pick up on that :P</p>
<p>hey piccolojunior, you seem to be very involved with this...do you know where you can get the specific rules?</p>
<p>like the answer to my question^^</p>
<p>thanks.</p>