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<li><p>I think Wildwood11 read mancune’s post in exactly the sense it was intended. It was a jab at Princeton. Ninth in the U.S.?</p></li>
<li><p>Notwithstanding how satisfying these rankings are to me – my fave institutions fare much better than Princeton relative to their general reputation among high school students – there is an element of ridiculousness in Princeton’s ranking.</p></li>
<li><p>So you look at what’s behind it, and you see that Princeton fell down in three areas: reputation with employers, student-faculty ratio, and percentage of international students. The first is bizarre – does anyone really think Princeton’s reputation among employers is only 70% of Yale’s or Columbia’s? The second has to be some sort of weird glitch in how they calculate that number, because no one familiar with the institutions in question thinks that Princeton’s student-faculty ratio is meaningfully worse than Yale, Penn, or Chicago. And the international student ratio is purely a function of Princeton’s relatively small graduate programs and absence of business school and other international-student magnets.</p></li>
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<p>However . . . it should be a lesson to people on CC to see how places like Chicago, Michigan, Cornell, and Hopkins are viewed by an international audience relative to places like HYPS.</p>