USNWR 2012 Predictions

<p>Yes, top 75. I'm doing this because I'm bored. And, it's coming out in like 10 days. </p>

<p>If:
1) you're going to complain about how rankings don't matter, just don't post please.
2) you're going to say school X is better than A,B and C, carry the conversation elsewhere please. </p>

<p>Just want to see what everyone thinks about the rankings.</p>

<p>I know the new methodology isn't out yet, but I like arbitrarily ranking schools, just like US News, so I guess it makes no difference:</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>JHU</li>
<li>WUSTL</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>CMU</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>Wake Forest</li>
<li>Michigan</li>
<li>Chapel Hill</li>
<li>Brandeis</li>
<li>W&M</li>
<li>BC</li>
<li>NYU</li>
<li>UCSD</li>
<li>Georgia Tech </li>
<li>Rochester</li>
<li>Lehigh</li>
<li>UCD</li>
<li>UCSB</li>
<li>CWRU</li>
<li>Wisconsin</li>
<li>RPI</li>
<li>Washington</li>
<li>UCI</li>
<li>Texas</li>
<li>Penn State</li>
<li>Illinois</li>
<li>Miami</li>
<li>Tulane</li>
<li>GWU</li>
<li>Syracuse</li>
<li>Yeshiva</li>
<li>BU</li>
<li>Florida</li>
<li>Pepperdine</li>
<li>Fordham</li>
<li>Maryland</li>
<li>OSU</li>
<li>Georgia</li>
<li>Pitt</li>
<li>Purdue</li>
<li>Northeastern</li>
<li>SMU</li>
<li>Clemson</li>
<li>Texas A&M</li>
<li>Connecticut</li>
<li>Minnesota</li>
<li>WPI</li>
<li>Rutgers</li>
<li>Virginia Tech</li>
<li>Iowa</li>
<li>BYU</li>
<li>Indiana</li>
<li>Colorado School of Mines</li>
</ol>

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<p>Okay, these two things contradict each other, just sayin’. How in the world do you rank schools without implicitly saying that school A is better or worse (or the same as) school B? If you don’t make any relative claim between the object ranked, then the ranking is meaningless and doesn’t matter. If the ranking matters, then you’re claiming that there’s a difference between schools of different ranks. Pick one.</p>

<p>Of course, if we’re mapping random or pseudo-random numbers to universities for the hell of it, then I’m all for it :D.</p>

<ol>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Chicago</li>
<li>Dartmouth</li>
<li>JHU</li>
<li>WUSTL</li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Vanderbilt</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>CMU</li>
<li>Tufts</li>
<li>UVA</li>
</ol>

<ol>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>MIT</li>
<li>Columbia</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>Cal Tech</li>
<li>UChicago</li>
<li>Duke</li>
<li>Dartmouth </li>
<li>Northwestern</li>
<li>Johns Hopkins</li>
<li>WashU St. Louis </li>
<li>Cornell</li>
<li>Brown</li>
<li>Rice</li>
<li>Vanderbilt </li>
<li>Notre Dame</li>
<li>Emory</li>
<li>Georgetown</li>
<li>UC Berkley </li>
<li>Carnegie Mellon</li>
<li>USC</li>
<li>UCLA</li>
<li>UVA</li>
<li>Wake Forest</li>
<li>Tufts </li>
<li>UMichigan </li>
<li>UNC Chapel Hill</li>
</ol>

<p>@rny2</p>

<p>For 2, I meant that people shouldn’t have those random arguments on here. You know, the ones that last 5 pages, and talk about the graduate level prestige of school X.</p>

<p>I agree that Berkeley will fall and that UCLA will fall out of the top 25. However, I don’t believe Stanford will rise that much.</p>

<p>I feel like there will be little change in the top 25. I do think UCSB, UCD, and UCI will all move up, dispite budget cuts. Reputation, retention, research, and selectivity continue to improve. These schools are research power houses and retention has also improved.</p>

<p>It’s crazy how competetive the UC’s have become…there are just too many students in Cali!</p>

<p>I cannot see Stanford rising above #4 but I could be wrong. We’ll see how this all plays out soon enough.</p>

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Your math is wrong.</p>

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Your counting is wrong.</p>

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You missed again.</p>

<p>The same matrix that results in Penn ranking over Brown should result in Cornell ranking over Penn, IMHO. But, I’m one of those people who thinks it doesn’t matter. :rolleyes:</p>

<p>Mine is essentially the same as shaheirunderdog’s, except number 1 and 8 are switched :wink:

  1. UChicago
  2. Harvard
  3. Yale
  4. Princeton
  5. MIT
  6. Columbia
  7. Penn
  8. Cal Tech
  9. Stanford
  10. Duke
  11. Dartmouth
  12. Northwestern
  13. Johns Hopkins
  14. WashU St. Louis
  15. Cornell
  16. Brown
  17. Rice
  18. Vanderbilt
  19. Notre Dame
  20. Emory
  21. Georgetown
  22. UC Berkley
  23. Carnegie Mellon
  24. USC
  25. UCLA
  26. UVA
  27. Wake Forest
  28. Tufts
  29. UMichigan
  30. UNC Chapel Hill</p>

<p>^^^You don’t need to guess anymore. The ratings have been out for over two hours…</p>