<p>Those videos are disgusting, DISGUSTING. </p>
<p>Itachi and the others will say that there’s nothing wrong with “teaching tolerance” to children, but what about kids whose parents taught them that homosexuality is not a natural/moral lifestyle? How is this any different from teaching Creationism to children? They’re both ideologies possessed by different groups of people. Why don’t we require kids to learn about Creationism at penalty of expulsion?</p>
<p>It’s hedonism, that’s all it is. The gay agenda (and yes, I used that term and if you’d actually look at it under the microscope you’d realize that it DOES exist no matter how much you sit around barking about it) is to indoctrinate children on the merits of homosexuality so that their sexual activities are legitimized and subsidized and allowed to proliferate. Sorry for the rant, I’m just kind of tired of people denying that there’s any liberal indoctrination at work in our public schools.</p>
<p>well, a few things…</p>
<p>1 that vid looks like its from the 90s
2 a Quaker school? ***
3 We don’t teach creationism because its not backed by science. Schools should teach whatever is backed by science. And if the latest studies say homosexuality is not a choice, schools should teach that</p>
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<p>4., Teaching homosexuality in K THROUGH 6? ***. A little early for ANY sexuality don’t you think?</p>
<p>While I agree that a homosexuality class should wait until middle school, I don’t see anything wrong with teaching kids tolerance and acceptance.</p>
<p>2009 was not in the 90s. Just thought you might want to know.</p>
<p>woeishe: it’s NOT teaching tolerance and acceptance! it’s teaching them about homosexuality and why it’s wonderful and great and why everyone should be okay with it. But everyone is NOT okay with it and we should respect the beliefs of those who aren’t. children shouldn’t be getting conflicting messages from home and from school about issues such as this.</p>
<p>Didn’t watch the videos, didn’t need to, USC is a ■■■■■ and the videos validate that. I’m guessing they’re that one family where the son was -gasp- “forced” to read King and King because… you know, tolerance at any age is a bad thing. Homos are scary and should be feared. That happened in 2007/early 08 btw, not 2009. </p>
<p>Lemme ask you something USC, you don’t “mean to start something” but what’s the problem with kids learning that gay people exist? It doesn’t have to become a discussion about sex. When Timmy comes home and asks why Johnny has two dads or two moms instead of a mom and a dad… honestly, how difficult is it to just say that “some men/women fall in love with other men/women instead of with someone of the opposite gender, and there’s nothing wrong with that.” Or something along those lines, it can be kept innocent and sex-free until they’re old enough. It’s called Parenting get off your lazy asses and do it right folks, not that difficult, really. </p>
<p>It’s the last part, right? You want to think there’s something wrong with it so it’s a-okay to discriminate… cause if there’s nothing wrong with it, then YOU’RE the bad guy.</p>
<p>Honestly, Anti’s overly dramatic response makes me believe that he’s USC and he’s posting with a sockpuppet just to bark back and forth and rally illusionary support for his cause. Even if it’s not Anti, it’s clearly a ■■■■■, with his first post he finds his way to a hotly debated topic and OH he just so happens to agree with the minority opinion. The signs are unmistakeable.</p>
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<p>Out of curiosity… what is your definition of “tolerance” or “acceptance”?</p>
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<p>You’re right, not everybody is okay with black people having rights equal to whites, so we need to respect those people who dress up in white robes and burn crosses in protest.</p>
<p>Not everyone is okay with women being equal to men so we should just look the other way when guys slap women’s asses at work, boys will be boys… and them girls is just askin’ for it, right? They’re leading men on…dressing like that…and such.</p>
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<p>Once again, you’re right. When the parent is too ignorant to accept reality as it is, they need to shut up so there isn’t a conflict between what is taught at home and at school. Parents need to remember in a large number of cases, the schools know better than they do and the teachers are more intelligent than they are. Especially if they’re racist, misogynist, homophobic, xenophobic, jerks who hate anything less than absolute conformity because individuality makes them feel inadequate.</p>
<p>You are saying the government should be allowed to have control over the kids instead of the parents? That the government knows best. That is the ideology of Soviet Russia, and that is no exaggeration. The government was in full control of its citizens from cradle to grave, and the schools were full of the Government’s propaganda which the people were raised to believe was absolute truth. Look it up and research it. That is seriously what you believe?</p>
<p>I am sorry, but my kids are not going to be puppets of the government. I am their parent and it is my job to train them and raise them, not the government. People like you are why I got involved in the first place. I wanted to get the message out somehow that kids are being fed homosexual ideological propaganda in the schools, because I want to stop it.</p>
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<p>The video was UPLOADED in 2008… how can it be from 2009?</p>
<p>Also, if your parents tell you a magic man made a man out of sand and then pulled out his rib to make a chick, then those two inbred for 800 years and that’s how the human race was made, are the schools supposed to “respect” that? If parents teach their kids ■■■■■■■■ things too bad if the school contradicts them. If they want a personalized education go to a private school.</p>
<p>…and this is one day a year where basically the schools says “don’t make fun of the girl with two moms or the kid that likes faries”</p>
<p>Wow, I was mostly being facetious, and you believed me anyway… although I totally agree that if parents are stupid enough to oppose homosexuality they need to step out of the way and let the schools do their JOBS. </p>
<p>Seriously, enough with the right-wing b.s Youtube videos. They don’t count as debating. Some idiot’s opinion on Youtube does not constitute a valid argument. You’re “new” here, assuming you aren’t someone’s sockpuppet so I’m going to explain something to you: I’ll show your views respect when you post views meriting respect.</p>
<p>Maybe the LBGT type centers should just become general sexuality centers. If any hetero people actually have issues or whatever with being heterosexuals, they can theoretically go there for support.</p>
<p>I don’t deserve respect because I disagree with you? That isn’t right. Neither is the teacher in the first video who teaches the first (second?) grader about her view on being open minded. She teaches the boy that people who don’t accept homosexuality are closed minded. What happened to personal opinion and values?</p>
<p>That first video was from the 90s, but I can assure you teachings haven’t changed in public schools. </p>
<p>The whole point of my post was to let people know what is going on in the public schools. It isn’t just teaching kids not to make fun of other kids. Did anyone watch both videos all the way through?</p>
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<p>Blah blah blah, cross burning this black discrimination that. Why am I not surprised you went here? </p>
<p>Look, my point is that there are scores of people that because of their beliefs do NOT consider homosexuality to be an “okay” lifestyle. What is so hard to understand about this? All of the things you’re saying sound pretty intolerant. A person that goes out and openly harasses/causes violence to people is different from a Christian or Muslim who is obligated by religion to view homosexuality and other such lifestyles as sinful. Besides all that, it is NOT the school’s responsibility to “reeducate” children on homosexuality, I don’t know why you would think it would be. </p>
<p>No more useless slippery slope arguments, okay?</p>
<p>antipacifist- Think you could answer my question in post 26?</p>
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<p>I imagine it’s pretty similar to yours, basically the dictionary definition: “the ability or willingness to tolerate something, in particular the existence of opinions or behavior that one does not necessarily agree with” - BUT - school is not the place to enforce these opinions. You can’t “teach” tolerance.</p>
<p>I like the dictionary.</p>
<p>Side note: FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!</p>
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<p>Bull. Both tolerance and intolerance are learned.</p>
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<p>Wait what. You can’t possibly believe this. It’s like saying that all opinions are totally indelible.</p>
<p>Unless you mean “You [schools] shouldn’t “teach” tolerance,” in which case, I think a lot of people would disagree.</p>
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<p>Why? It’s not the public school’s responsibility to engineer students to believe a certain way. I support the “don’t call Jimmy a f@g because that’s rude” school of thought, but not the “Johnny Penguin and Bobby Penguin are married and living together and they have an adopted penguin son but that’s all okay because being gay is fine” doctrine. Bullying IS a problem but reading schoolchildren a book about gay penguins does not help the problem.</p>
<p>I’m obviously not saying that opinions are unchangeable. It’s just NOT the school’s responsibility to do the changing. </p>
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