UT-Austin BHP vs UT-Dallas Jindal School of Management

<p>Hi everybody! I'm a TAMS student, which means that I basically get to skip two years of any public university in Texas.
Here's my question: I want to major in Business. I know that UT's McCombs school is reputably amazing, but I have heard amazing things about UTD's Jindal School (where I can go for free and get a $3000 per semester stipend). (Rank 15 vs Rank 37 according to US News). The thing is, my parents and I really dislike UT. REAALLLYYYY dislike it. It's too much of a party school, too liberal, etc. UTD would suit me just fine. We originally planned to never even consider it, but I have just only heard about its amazing BHP program. Another thing to consider is that I am possibly premed, but I know both UTD and UT are amazing for it.</p>

<p>UT Positives:
- I've heard that UT's BHP program has amazing recruiting for Texas companies and a few Wall Street Companies. O.O
- I want to go to a great MBA program like Wharton's, and flagships are viewed better than regional schools like UTD.
- Class sizes are capped at 40 students (I think)
- TAMS has cost my parents about 9000 per year or 18000 in total, If I go to UT, then I will have saved money since it costs 44000 for the two years that I've only spent 18000 for.</p>

<p>UT Negatives:
- WAY too big of a school and not my style. Too liberal, too much Frat culture, etc.
- I'm scared I won't be able to pull off a 3.9+ GPA. I HAVE GOT to go to a school where I can pull this off, no matter UT or UTD. (Would somebody tell me about the rigor of the BHP program please?)
- Campus is super big. I like a medium sized campus.</p>

<p>UTD Positives-
- Free tuition plus $3000 dollars stipend per semester.
- Jindal school has good recruitment, but only in Dallas.
- Like UT, UTD has a Collegium 5 Honors program, which caps classes of at about 30 students.
-It's totally my style. There's no football team or frat culture. The school is COMPLETELY focused on academics. I think it's a hidden gem in Texas that not many people consider. I can't stop gushing about this school. And #1 Chess Team in the nation? Sign me up!
- UTD is only 10 minutes away from home, so I won't have to spend a dime for this school other than for books. I've already had the whole living-away-from-home college experience for the past two years at TAMS (at UNT), and I don't really need to have any more experience. UTD would save me a LOT of moola.
- UTD and UT Southwestern Medical School are pretty tight. UTD's a great feeder school to their medical school.</p>

<p>UTD Negatives-
- I want to get a top 5 school MBA and prestigious internships. UTD is not conducive to that.
- UTD's campus too small, and there's only one cafeteria. :(
- UTD does not seem that prestigious, and in the Business world (unlike Medicine) prestige is all that matters.
- Not as much networking as in UT.</p>

<p>Please share your opinions about my predicament, etc. I'd like the positives and negatives of the BHP program and the +'s or -'s of UTD's Jindal School of Management. If it helps, I'm applying to Wharton for ED, so UT BHP and UTD are my backups.</p>

<p>Thank you SO much for your time and help. :)</p>

<p>Another UT negative: there are SO many premeds that there are few research opportunities.</p>

<p>You may want to check to see if BHP even takes Juniors. They took 125 freshman this year, and it is my understanding that they take less than 20 sophomores. It is a 4 year program.</p>

<p>Oh, I still count as a traditional high school senior. I have every chance of getting in as a normal HS would. I would just get to save 2 years if I did. :)</p>

<p>“I’m a TAMS student, which means that I basically get to skip two years of any public university in Texas.”</p>

<p>In that case, I’m not sure the purpose of the above sentence. </p>

<p>If you don’t like UT and Austin, I recommend you not apply to BHP. It seems from some of your posts on other threads that you are mostly seeking a program with prestige. Four years is a long time to live somewhere that you “REAALLLYYYY dislike.” College is not about how much prestige you can acquire through your school. It’s much more than that. It’s living and learning in a place you like with people you like. It’s learning what feeds your SOUL not just your resume. Austin is a very unique city…it’s not for everyone. </p>

<p>1) What’s your current UNT GPA, based on how many completed hours?
2) Have you completed Calculus I & II and both Macro-/Micro-economics? With what grades?</p>

<p>@PastePotPete‌ I’m not looking to this as a chance thread. I just need some positives and negatives about BHP.
@2jeter‌ I dislike UT because of the party-ish mentality there. I could survive it for 2 years and I think I could make myself a place there.</p>

<p>@truthandmercy‌ getting a 3.9+ at UT is incredibly hard , like close to impossible especially in BHP , from what I’ve heard there are professors that will only give out a 1-2 As and some that will not even give A’s unless you blow their minds or something(very rare) ; UT is very competitive , and I’m sure as a TAMS student you will do fine , but if you don’t like Austin and the Culture, just go to UTD and get your MBA from top 5 school ; I’m sure it will 2-3x easier to shine out there compared to UT , whereas at UT your going to have to compete for those internships and grades with people that are just as smart as you.</p>

<p>Word of caution: there are many, many programs that will take you 4 years regardless of how many general credits you come in with. The highly accomplished programs could probably be done in 3 years if you complete the specific major entry level course AND the program doesn’t require those to be taken in residence. Some Honors programs like Plan 2 are a 4 year program period, no exceptions. They basically tell you good job on all the credit, now your semesters will be lighter. But there are still a minimum of 6-8 semesters of major level coursework that is too sequential to be done in 2 years. Asking for pre reqs to be waived will just annoy your Honors advisor, who will just repeat what I’ve said. </p>

<p>Again, very dependent on the program. Just don’t be in total shock if this is the case for something like BHP. </p>

<p>*source: advising many frustrated TAMS students who end up having to take electives just to be a full time student </p>

<p>She doesn’t seem to be concerned with the facts of the programs. Reality is going to be tough.</p>

<p>I read a few of OP’s posts, and I got bored really quickly. So what if your parents and you don’t like UT? You go to a UT bb, you denigrate our school and town, and yet you pretend to ask for meaningful advice? Go somewhere else. Just stop with the lame posts.</p>

<p>I agree Redwing. She definitely likes attention.</p>

<p>“I’m not looking to this as a chance thread. I just need some positives and negatives about BHP.”
@truthandmercy My point was/is that you may not qualify for BHP in the first place, so circumstance provides the answer to your original question–go to Jindal because it is the only one of the two alternatives available to you.</p>

<p>Thank you @commandbutton‌
I think I’ll just ignore the others’ comments.
I think you’ve made some really solid points, and I think that UTD is the perfect fit for me.
I guess the real question is, is it possible to still go to a top 5 business school after completing undergrad at a lesser known school?</p>

<p>@truthandmercy‌ of course it is possible , you just have to stay involved , get high gpa , get a really good gmat , look if you go to UT they will understand that a 3.5 there = 3.75 or 3.8 at another school , similarly if you have a 3.8+ that equals a good gpa at Harder more well known schools. Only thing well known schools are good for are the internships , but if you standout and do well at UTD , then you should be fine at getting them also , also remember they look a lot at internships and jobs</p>

<p>@truthandmercy‌ look through this , it will give you a better understanding , go to the bottom and scroll throughout the different candidates and the chances he gives out , <a href=“http://poetsandquants.com/2014/04/18/handicapping-your-odds-of-getting-into-a-top-mba-program/”>http://poetsandquants.com/2014/04/18/handicapping-your-odds-of-getting-into-a-top-mba-program/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I believe that your predicament is that you’re thinking too hard about where you want to be for the wrong reasons. Even if your goal is MBA, you can learn a lot more in college than how to keep a 3.9+ GPA and how to get the most bells and whistles for your resume. While those bells and whistles are important, a big part of it is learning social skills that will take you a great deal further than a gpa that will not define your career as much as you seem to believe. Also, dont forget to have a good time in college</p>

<p>Thank you so much for the link and the help guys!</p>

<p>I sent you a PM, please check your inbox</p>