<p>Hey there,
I am looking to see which school would be a better option when I start applying next year. I want to major in business (fianance) and currently live in illinois. The tution difference is 10k so is it worth to pay the extra for UT Austin or just go to UIUC. Also what are my chances of getting in and any tips to finish off high school. If this helps im taking these classes </p>
<p>junior year:
AP Physics, AP Psych, AP Language/Comp., AP Calc BC, Spanish 4, Accounting and lunch + gym </p>
<p>Senior year im planning on taking:
AP Lit/Comp, AP Stats, AP Chem, AP Gov, Accounting 2, Business Internship, lunch + and either Multi Variable Stats or AP Spanish </p>
<p>Any tips for my schedule would be helpful too.
Thanks </p>
<p>Since UT places an unusually high value on class rank, without knowing class rank (or test scores for that matter). any information would be a pure guess.</p>
<p>See <a href=“http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/whyut/profile/scores”>http://bealonghorn.utexas.edu/whyut/profile/scores</a></p>
<p>Based on that, for the UT undergraduate business program average scores would be: SAT 1965, ACT 30, but with autoadmission of so many in-state top 7%, I would expect that test scores needed for out of state admission to this program would be significantly higher than that. I know that one of my son’s friends with much higher test scores than that (and in-state) was turned down this year (and had the usual rigorous IB curriculum with very good, but not top 7%, grades)</p>
<p>Does McCombs do direct admits? </p>
<p>Thank you. I’m studying a lot for the ACT as thats what most students take in illinois. </p>
<p>Don’t see any major advantage for UT over UIUC for biz even without extra cost unless you like Austin and want that level of fun… </p>
<p>UIUC has a 69% 4 year graduation rate (overall), much, much higher than UT’s (which is about 50%), but I don’t know about the specific graduation rate for the business programs (and even for business I am fairly skeptical of the value of a generic business program. Finding useful combinations is tricky: business management with engineering, medicine, public health, supply chain, econ, finance, accounting or something else that is complementary to your degree - so would consider how easy it is at each school to get a minor in something that will help you stick out from the pack.</p>
<p>Most bus programs you don’t major in “biz mgt” but in accting, finance or one of the other specialties. Mgt majors usually are near the bottom in getting the best jobs out of undergrad. Finance and accting are usually tops plus some usually smaller specialties like supply chain or actuarial science. </p>
<p>@2018RiceParent:</p>
<p>I keep posting info and it seems that it keeps slipping your mind or something. The 4-year graduation rates are lower at schools with big co-op programs. Both UIUC & UT-Austin have 6-year graduation rates around 80% (UIUC a little higher) which is still not awesome, but gives the fuller picture.</p>
<p>In any case, I don’t really see a benefit with going with UT-Austin unless you want to make your career in TX or something like that.</p>
<p>@PurpleTitan
UT administration acknowledged that its graduation rate issue is one of its most serious problems. UT said in its taskforce report two years ago on this that its 4 year graduation rate should be above 70% (it is 51%) and they claim to have set this goal. They appointed a full time senior administrator to focus wholly on how to fix the problem and chartered a cross University task force to produce a 114 page report on this. Internships were not listed as an important reason for their low graduation rate compared to their peers according to the published UT reports. Internships are mentioned once in the 114 page report, but not listed as a significant cause of the problem. See <a href=“Student Success Symposium Strengthens Culture of Collaboration - Office of the Executive Vice President and Provost”>Student Success Symposium Strengthens Culture of Collaboration - Office of the Executive Vice President and Provost; and <a href=“Student Success Symposium Strengthens Culture of Collaboration - Office of the Executive Vice President and Provost”>Student Success Symposium Strengthens Culture of Collaboration - Office of the Executive Vice President and Provost; Anecdotally I have not met people who graduated late because of UT internships (although I have met multiple A&M engineers who took 5 years due to internships). Those I have met who have dropped out of UT were for other reasons, but there more objective data on this in the UT reports. Clearly internships affect graduation times of some students, but its five and six year numbers are also below its peers (although not as far). I have seen improvements in UT - new programs to help high risk students over the summer before their first semester for example. Over the last few years changes at UT have apparently resulted in slight improvement but below their goals, and with an ever strengthening student body, some improvements also would be expected from the slightly more selective students now enrolling.</p>
<p>@2018RiceParent :</p>
<p>So why does UT-Austin’s graduation rate go from 50% to 80% when you go from 4 to 6 years, then? What is causing them to delay graduating?</p>
<p>Austin is a place nobody is in a hurry to leave. What’s the rush? Many UT kids have money too. </p>
<p>@PurpleTitan </p>
<p>I can not speak from personal experience, and much of this data was analyzed apparently by the task force (and earlier studies such as <a href=“http://www.utexas.edu/news/attach/2011/campus/analysis_efficiency.pdf”>http://www.utexas.edu/news/attach/2011/campus/analysis_efficiency.pdf</a> which focused on better teaching, advising, class sizes)</p>
<p>Quoting from the earlier (2011) report: “There is, of course, room for improvement, especially in four-year graduation rates… an unacceptably low number and well behind the University of California-Berkeley and the University of Michigan, which graduate about 70 percent of their students on time. Our six year graduation rate … also lags behind those same two which graduate about 90 percent… Data from other institutions suggest the university may also be able to increase graduation rates by lowering the student-to-faculty ration and hiring high-potential faculty…”</p>
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<p>1) could not schedule classes they needed (an issue for some who are not in the honors program with priority scheduling) which kept filling</p>
<p>2) discouraged</p>
<p>3) lack of intervention, good advising when struggling with one of the few remaining classes</p>
<p>@barrons has a good point (said as one whose brother took >6 years to graduate in TX)</p>
<p>"“nobody is in a hurry to leave.”</p>
<p>lol…that can be true. I have known kids to take longer at big Div I schools just to have access to cheap student football tix. </p>
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<p>No it isn’t. Are your parents saying that they would happily pay $40k+ for UT? If not then this is a non-starter.</p>
<p>What is your class rank? Do you have any scores at all so far? And just because most IL students take the ACT, does NOT mean that you can’t take the SAT as well. </p>
<p>bTW…if you need aid, UIUC is lousy with aid, so if that is an issue, you need to have a longer list.</p>
<p>UT and Uiuc are peer schools in business admin programs. The accounting programs are ranked number 1 or 2 in the nation. You cannot go wrong with any of them. My vote is Uiuc since it is cheaper and you won’t get much aid from UT because you are OOS. </p>
<p>What does it take to get into UIUC? What scores and GPA? Do you apply separately to the Business School? You do have to apply to business specifically at UT. </p>
<p>As an OOSer, UT admissions will be tougher for you. I don’t remember seeing any test scores or grades posted. And UT will cost more, as has been mentioned. </p>
<p>I had to laugh at kids not wanting to leave Austin! So true!</p>