<p>Let me put it this way, I have 3 friends who applied for the wireless department in,ECE UT, all of them with 9.4+ GPA with internship experience and none of them got in. Collegues here in Nokia very often mentionr ECE faculty members. My guess is UT is much better than ATM</p>
<p>Thanks for your “guess”</p>
<p>the top 10% rule is irrelevant when your looking at engineering. just cause they get into the school through top 10% does not mean they will go into engineering. and its def true that most of them will be destroyed by the work the first year because the top 10% rule is ■■■■■■■■ and everyone knows it. not saying t he people who got in because of that are stupid, but alot of them don’t belong there. </p>
<p>engineering has different requirements, and getting into engineering and business for UT is like getting into a completely different college. you actually have to be smart to get into them. UT overall is better than A&M (coming from a future aggie engineer if i dont get into michigan) but engineering and business students in UT are very smart and probably belong there. same goes for a&m, the majority arn’t that smart, business isn’t that great either, but the engineering, while overall not as good as UT, finds certain niches like civil engineering, petro, and bio, and excels in them. </p>
<p>but yes the top 10% rule is stupid and pointless cause their just gonna drop out first year anyway cause they come from small towns where they’ve learned to add and subtract and compete against ■■■■■■■ to get into the top 10%, and then come to UT and realize they’re the ■■■■■■■ now.</p>
<p>UT is better in some aspects as hard as it is for me to say that. I grew up in Austin as a longhorn fan and decided to go to A&M (not because I didn’t get accepted there). </p>
<p>Overall I think A&M is better (yes opinion, not fact, so the sips that will come on this thread do not get butt hurt)</p>
<p>The original issue seems to have been lost here: which is the better school for electrical and computer engineering.</p>
<p>Overall, the two EE programs are very similar. They both have very similar curricula and offer the same types of classes. The intro classes tend to be large and difficult. The upper division classes are smaller and also difficult. Both are highly regarded in industry. Working at Intel in Austin, both schools are well-represented. My manager was from A&M. My coworkers are from UT. There’s no strong preference for one or the other. Working at Microsoft, there is a stronger UT presence. But that probably stems from the fact that UT’s CS program is stronger than A&Ms, rather than EE programs. From anecdotal accounts, companies recruit heavily at both. </p>
<p>The difference between the programs IMO is their strengths. UT’s computer engineering faculty and undergraduate program is certainly stronger than A&Ms. The classes are very well organized: almost all contain significant lab components alongside difficult exams and homework. The professors are wickedly bright and very open to students. There are very few embedded systems and computer architecture programs that can compare. On the other hand, A&M’s faculty tends to favor the EE side, including a very strong telecom, emag and power systems faculty. I don’t think that UT’s program is at the same level. These fields at UT are somewhat overlooked and somewhat unpopular (emag) among students. Depending on the type of work you would like to do, both schools have different strengths.</p>
<p>That said, Austin is way better IMO than CS. I grew up in cstat. Except for the people, crappy college town :)</p>
<p>Really does depend on the person then because as a college town goes I think Austin is terrible where as College Station is great.</p>
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<p>Thanks for the laugh!</p>
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<p>No problem, I love Austin, but as a college town it is definitely not as good as College Station. Stay classy sips.</p>
<p>I think I’ll take my 19 years in Austin and my high school friends that decided to stay in Austin and attend UT and love College Station when they come up here due to the people and feel experiences over the typical Sip elitist opinions.</p>
<p>Anyways toward the OP: Engineering schools are comparable but UT has the better ECEN and Comp Sci programs.</p>
<p>2010 NRC Electrical and Computer Engineering PhD Rankings</p>
<h1>15 - Univ. of Texas</h1>
<h1>29 - Texas A & M</h1>
<p>[2010</a> Ranking of Electrical and Computer Engineering Graduate Schools — PhDs.org Graduate School Guide](<a href=“http://graduate-school.phds.org/rankings/electrical-engineering/rank/_MMH_____H________H_____________________H_______________________U]2010”>http://graduate-school.phds.org/rankings/electrical-engineering/rank/_MMH_____H________H_____________________H_______________________U)</p>
<p>TXAggie92, I think I have to agree with MaineLonghorn here. It isn’t even a contest between the two cities for the majority of people. Of course, you personally feel otherwise, but the average person wouldn’t.</p>
<p>Back to texags for me where I can openly shred the sips.</p>
<p>I wouldn’t call College Station a “city,” for one thing.</p>
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<p>That depends on your definition of a city I suppose. College Station is officially (according to the census bureau) part of a metropolitan area. One that has 212,000 people to boot. It is a city in some sense.</p>
<p>Thanks for that statistic, boneh3ad. It’s bigger than I realized. The population of CS itself is 93,850.</p>
<p>Ha, I live just north of Portland, Maine, the biggest “city” in the state at 64,000 or so.</p>
<p>Since this thread mentioned EE and CompE, I may be out of my element since the only engineering with computers that I know about is software engineering, but…and for the 1,373,465th time…</p>
<p>There ARE and WILL be so many outside factors that determine how one’s career will go based on a comparison between U-Texas and Texas A&M.</p>
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<li><p>The TAMU grad may end up on some project with some bleeding edge technology. You know how some defense companies are…they will go into that direction just because it is hot.</p></li>
<li><p>The U-Texas grad may take the wrong mix of electives</p></li>
<li><p>The TAMU grad may take a job in Northwest Wyoming just to gain some experience in a new technology area and switch jobs again after getting such experience.</p></li>
<li><p>The U-Texas grad may just have “book sense” and not “practical sense”.</p></li>
<li><p>The TAMU grad may enroll at a part-time online graduate program at say Georgia Tech…where GRE’s are not required.</p></li>
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<p>Too many possibilities.</p>
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<p>That’s the problem with the top 10% (or top 8% or whatever) rule. Kids who finish in the top 20% of Katy ISD schools are most likely far superior to the top 10% kids at rural schools. Many of those top-20%ers get into A&M, but not everyone wants to go there. As a result - they end up (like my sons) - OOS.</p>
<h2>A&M is a great school, the programs are strong, and the alumni network is phenomenal (odd stories aside). There are annual A&M alumni celebrations across the world, and I was always amazed at the number of attendees. But…A&M is a “love it or hate it” school. My older son had absolutely NO desire to go to A&M (or UT). My younger son thought about A&M for a while, mainly because his oldest/closest/best friend from overseas is going, but in the end realized it wasn’t a good fit for him.</h2>
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<p>I can understand this. I have no desire to live in either place, but I know people who much prefer the Bryan/College Station area to Austin. </p>
<p>As for college students, College Station provides more of the classic “college town” feel than Austin does. This was important with my older son and one of the reasons (in addition to the band uniforms!) that he never even considered UT (and wouldn’t have been admitted anyway). He is now a very happy freshman at Penn State!</p>
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<p>or the student might accidentally fall into the Texa A&M giganctic bonfire that is lit on the day before the big football game</p>
<p>All I know is that my son is getting to do research in the biomedical engineering lab at UT as a freshman. He absolutely loves it. Even coming from a very small town in Maine, he thinks Austin is great.</p>
<p>MaineLonghorn -UT is a great school in a great town. No question. My brother went there for a couple of years (until my dad died) and loved it. But lots of kids I know go there because…well, they can and so they just don’t really consider any other places. </p>
<p>UT is definitely a good school in an interesting city, but it’s not necessarily the college environment that some people want. It’s like going to Tulane (apart from the size of the student body and the quality of sports!) in New Orleans - good school, great town, wonderful art/music scene, smart kids, etc - but definitely not a typical “college town” experience. </p>
<p>This is where “fit” comes into play. My son was accepted into some great schools - but they were not the right schools for him. In the end, he chose the “best” school that was the “right” school for him. UT would not have been a good match for him.</p>