UT vs. University of Michigan

<p>So, I need some help. I've been accepted to both UT & the University of Michigan and I'm on the border of which school to attend. While I do lean towards UT quite a bit, I can't seem to make myself fully commit and abandon my dreams of attending UMich. I do live in Texas so the fact that UMich would be a big change is a huge part of it's appeal to me. However, UT would be much more affordable.</p>

<p>I've been accepted into the McCombs School of Business at UT but I'm still waiting to hear if I've gotten into the Preferred Admission program at the Ross School of Business.</p>

<p>I'm really just looking for a bit of convincing, if you've got any to offer. I'm up to hear reasons why you chose UT, reasons why you love UT or reasons why UT just kicks ever other school's behind. Thanks!!</p>

<p>I’m from California. I got into UT and was deferred from Michigan but am pretty confident I will still get in. I look at both of these schools as huge changes for me. And other than the slightly better academics at Michigan, there is not much else I think that is much better than UT. I have visited Michigan and its HUGE. Its beautiful and really quite an amazing place, but with the same amount of people and smaller campus size UT seems a bit better there. Sports obviously are great at both, but UT has much more attractive people. If you’re not dying for snow then the weather is much better in Austin (obviously). For me the whole package of UT sounds awesome. And i don’t know how much of a change you’re looking for, but for the price I really don’t see how you could pass Austin up. I would say go to UT, but honestly Michigan is so awesome. If you can afford it and really want that change then I say go there. Otherwise UT is a great choice no doubt.</p>

<p>I was just accepted two weeks ago and I plan to go UT for sure. Interestingly enough, I am from NY so keep that in mind:</p>

<p>When I started all the college visits and planning junior year, I had no idea what I wanted in a school: big, small; rural, city; private, public, etc. Eventually I convinced myself I was going to go to school somewhere in Boston, where my sisters both went (graduated so they weren’t going to be there if I went to boston). All I knew is that I wanted to go somewhere different; a place to get a different perspective and culture. My small mostly jewish/italian town was so culturally stagnant that I needed to go anywhere that was different. </p>

<p>After my guidance counselor and I created a list, I dropped that fact that my step mother attended UT years ago and she put it at the bottom of the list. The majority of said list was based in the northeast. </p>

<p>So I looked at schools in Boston and RI and I realized that nothing I saw really “spoke” to me. That clich</p>

<p>I would say if you get into BHP, go with UT.</p>

<p>If you don’t, then Michigan Preferred Admission may be better from the standpoint of recruiters.</p>

<p>At UT, the recruiters first scoop up the BHP students, as the BHP program, curriculum, class size, teachers etc. are all different. The non-BHP at UT face some humongous class sizes. </p>

<p>If cost is a factor, then that alone should favor UT, as you can apply the over $50 K in savings towards your MBA, perhaps at Ross.</p>

<p>That said, the weather at UT is a huge plus, vs. Michigan. Also, if you want to work in the oil industry etc.</p>

<p>depends on where you want to be. in the south, mccombs will hold just as well if not better than any school. but outside of the south, ross will trump mccombs.</p>

<p>I don’t think that’s true mumur–recruiters from around the country compete to come to UT. We’ve even had to turn recruiters away from our career fairs. McCombs students compete on the level of top law schools, and even if you didn’t get into BHP, there’s always sophomore admissions :)</p>

<p>Thank you very much to everyone who replied! Blutz2, your “testimonial” of sorts was very helpful and I’m very thankful that you shared it with me.</p>

<p>I didn’t apply to the Business Honors Program-partially because I thought that I would be happy enough just getting into McCombs and partially because I wasn’t well enough educated on what the program was like (which, looking back, I wish I would have researched more on but hey, what happens, happens.)</p>

<p>How much better is the BHP than the regular business classes? Will I still get a good education at McCombs without being in the program? How difficult is it to get in as a sophomore and what steps can I take to make sure that I would be able to get in? What do they look for in sophomore admits?</p>

<p>Lots of questions-sorry! Anything you guys can say about the BHP would be helpful, though. :)</p>

<p>Ok, saw your stats.</p>

<p>I doubt you have much of a chance of getting into Michigan Ross as a preferred admit.</p>

<p>Go ahead and try for BHP, but its tough, real tough.</p>

<p>Looks like your math is good, but not great. 650 on SAT Math and ACT comp of 29 and 3’ s on AP probably will not help for UT McCombs BHP.</p>

<p>You would need straight 4.0, great essays, leadership at UT and great interviewing skills (with unique selling points/hook) to get into BHP.</p>

<p>Be glad you are at McCombs, work hard and enjoy the experience. You will discover yourself and break out as most young adults do in College.</p>

<p>Cheers!</p>

<p>Ross > McCombs</p>

<p>The avg SAT M+R score for UT BHP is 1466. The avg SAT M+R score for U-M Ross preferred admits is 1492. </p>

<p>[BHP</a> Class Profiles | McCombs School of Business | The University of Texas at Austin](<a href=“http://new.mccombs.utexas.edu/BHP/Admissions/Class-Profiles.aspx]BHP”>http://new.mccombs.utexas.edu/BHP/Admissions/Class-Profiles.aspx)</p>

<p><a href=“Bachelor of Business Administration | Michigan Ross”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/admissions/bba/BBA%20Class%20Profiles%202010.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Getting into the regular Ross program is more competitive than getting into McCombs BHP. Take the bird on hand and go to McCombs. </p>

<p>Also, the difference in cost between four years at Ross vs McCombs is ~$110K.</p>

<p>[Cost</a> Comparison of Top Schools | McCombs School of Business | The University of Texas at Austin](<a href=“http://new.mccombs.utexas.edu/BHP/Admissions/Cost-Comparison.aspx]Cost”>http://new.mccombs.utexas.edu/BHP/Admissions/Cost-Comparison.aspx)</p>

<p>Based on the numbers, it would be hard to justify choosing U-M Ross over UT McCombs.</p>

<p>Hmmm, thank you very much, quantman07 and m1817. I think you guys have just about convinced me to attend McCombs & you’ve provided me with some great information that makes me feel confident that it’d be the right decision.</p>

<p>@utaustin i never said mccombs didnt place well. i just said that outside the south i believe ross does better (especially midwest, and east coast too to a lesser extent)</p>

<p>sdremely, my son is in engineering, but I can tell you that he really likes UT, and he’s from Maine. He particularly likes the weather and the friendly people. He said, “Mom, people actually come up and TALK to me!!” Everytime he calls home, he lets us know how great the weather is. He also likes the “energy” of the University.</p>

<p>@quantman “At UT, the recruiters first scoop up the BHP students…”</p>

<p>Not true at all. Being in BHP may get you an interview before other McCombs kids, but recruiters could care less if you are in BHP during the interview. If you have no personality, or suck at technicals during the interview, the regular McCombs kid that blows it out of the park will get it 99% of the time.</p>

<p>@wolf Great opinion coming from someone that doesn’t attend McCombs or Ross.</p>

<p>@sdremely Both schools are on par with one another from a recruiting standpoint. If you want to work in the midwest, pick Ross, south, pick McCombs, all else equal.</p>

<p>“If you want to work in the midwest, pick Ross” </p>

<p>There are no jobs in the midwest. The Ross graduates are moving to Texas to work in the oil & gas industry - LOL.</p>

<p>My S was also accepted to both schools (UT and Michigan). Michigan accepted him into the College of Engineering but Texas has not committed yet. I’m assuming that he will get accepted into the engineering program at UT. We’re OOS (CA) and have not heard from our in-state flagship school yet-- UC Berkeley. If my S gets accepted to UC Berkeley, he will probably go there and save on tuition compared to attending his other top choice school Michigan. As others have mentioned, your in-state school (UT) is a lot less expensive than Michigan (even if you do get in and there are no guarantees) and, since it is a toss-up between the two, save on undergrad tuition. McCombs is a great school, and a bargain for in-state residents.</p>

<p>I also got into Michigan and UT and I would say that if you are a Texas resident, definitely go to UT. It’s such a bargain, as jshain mentioned. You aren’t losing much. You’ll have the college town, the great city (Austin is a more ‘exciting’ city than Ann Arbor too), the athletics, the reputation, and more. The huge difference in cost isn’t worth the change of scenery in my opinion. </p>

<p>Good luck with your decision. I know how hard it can be, but I myself have ruled out Michigan because I’m in-state in Texas as you are.</p>

<p>USofPlutarchy</p>

<p>I assume you are at UT and use career services, got the interviews, and real great offers for either internships and/or jobs.</p>

<p>I have looked at the McCombs placement stats, been on the other end sending staff to recruit at top B schools worldwide for lots and lots of years. I assume you know the data in detail. Here is the Ross data (no, I never went to Ross) <a href=“http://www.bus.umich.edu/EmploymentProfile/EmploymentOverview.htm?StudentType=BBAGrads[/url]”>http://www.bus.umich.edu/EmploymentProfile/EmploymentOverview.htm?StudentType=BBAGrads&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Plus, I am an ex Wall Streeter and Financial Services global P&L manager who is pretty data driven and would like to see the totality of the data that you have or refer me to it.</p>

<p>Since my daughter will be going to Mc.Combs and is not in BHP I’d love to buy what you are selling but I do think the evidence shows that top recruiters do go for the BHP guys first, and then skim the cream of the crop of the others, with some exceptions.</p>

<p>I have also coached current seniors at UT in the BHP program with interviewing and internships so I do have some other data points from multiple perspectives.</p>

<p>In any event, I would like to see the data that validates your thesis.</p>

<p>@m1817 May have been true a year ago, but I see/have seen plenty of midwest based companies recruiting at McCombs right now/this fall.</p>

<p>@quant Sorry if that came across negatively. I just pass along info that I experienced myself during this past recruiting season. I’m not BHP, but beat out BHP and east coast kids in BB S&T superdays, landing 3 BB offers. Maybe I am just an exception and my experiences aren’t at all statistically significant.</p>

<p>However, I just can’t see an IB recruiter picking a BHP kid that flops the technical portion of the interview, instead of a regular McCombs kid that nails DCF and accounting technicals. Maybe I am completely wrong though.</p>

<p>@ OP,</p>

<p>I am literally in the exact same situation as you are.</p>

<p>I have been admitted to both UT and UMich, and am a resident of Texas.
My heart belongs at Michigan, but UT is way less expensive.</p>

<p>I think they are both phenomenal schools and will both offer a ton of opportunities.</p>