UVA Articulation Agreement with VCCS

<p>Has anyone on this board taken advantage of this agreement? It is guaranteed admission as a transfer student with an Associates degree and a 3.4 average from a Virginia Community College. If you have and perhaps the Dean will answer this question, my son has AP scores which NVCC has accepted of 3's and 4's for a few classes. Will UVA accept his A.A. diploma? There are a few loopholes which aren't quite answered in the agreement. Thanks to all.</p>

<p>The little that I know about this is that they will accept the credits but not the grades. I spoke with Olivia from the transfer office earlier today and she said you start over with a 4.0 but none of the grades transfer.</p>

<p>most schools I know accept the credits but not the grades since CCs are not accredited 4-year colleges.</p>

<p>vistany, you don't start with a 4.0 or any GPA, for that matter. Your grade point average at the university is from the classes you take at the university.</p>

<p>IhateCR, that's not why they don't accept the grades. No college gives grades for transfer credit.</p>

<p>Ok, no one has answered your questions really, so i'll give it a shot:
1) No one on here will have taken advantage of it yet (or, atleast not until Monday at 5pm) and it's because it was just implemented this past spring. You may not even see a lot with this application round, because the first graduating class to be able to fully plan and spend two years knowing about this would be the class of 2006, which are currently first years (like meee! =P). Decisions for this year's transfers come out Monday, check the boards then for stats
2) As for the AP classes, you really need to call the admissions office and ask them. My guess would be that if he earns an Assoc Degree, then it doesn't matter how he fullfilled it as long as he fullfilled the required classes and got credit for them. However, the classes i've earned credit for here at VT for some courses (say, AP Lang, on which i earned a 4) will not transfer to UVA simply because my scores don't meet UVA's requirement (such as AP Lang, for which I got credit at VT for a score of 4, but UVA only gives credit for a 5).
Best bet: call the admissions office so your son can plan accordingly if needed. Not enough people on here are fully knowledgible about the agreement to answer your question with 110% accuracy, and it would be a shame for him to put in 2 years of work and then be stuck. And while he would be allowed to fullfill the requirements the summer before he enrolls if necessary, it would be easier to figure everything out now. Good luck =)</p>

<p>I think I know the parameters of the agreement enough to answer your question. The articulation agreement says that from your son's AA degree he must have 54 <em>transferable</em> credits. This means that of the 60+ credits fom your son's degree, 54 of them have to be equivalent to courses at UVA. You can check this on the transfer website. For the credits your son has from AP tests, little or none of it may transfer. But as long as his degree has 54 other credits that go along with UVA's guidelines he is fine. If your son took all his classes at a VCCS this shouldnt be a problem.</p>

<p>I think Truth is correct. His AP scores must meet UVA's requirements, and the other courses he's taken at VCCS will transfer, and between the two, he must have 54 credit hours to take advantage of the agreement. Again, you should probably call and ask to talk to the Dean of the day =) Just to make sure</p>

<p>I almost went to a CC last year, planning to use the AP and get an associates in 1 year. But, I called UVA admissions and found out that you must earn a certain amount of those 54 credits( I think 48) at that CC, So I would not be able to realistically do it so fast. Read all the fine print before jumping in on this one. I did and avoided making a big error.</p>

<p>Hebrew Hammer, do you happen to have a link for this agreement? Thank you in advance.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/docs/agreement.doc%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.virginia.edu/undergradadmission/docs/agreement.doc&lt;/a>
This is a link to the agreement. This is a great deal for Virginia students, if you can maintain the average required by UVA, which is 3.4. My son will have two years of college completed by the end of his senior year in high school. Because he has taken AP classes and dual enrollment during the school year and summer, he will have the required credits from a VCC. Most if not all of the Virginia state schools participate in this as well as some private universities.</p>

<p>But don't you have to take a certain amount of those credits at the CC?</p>

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Earns a minimum of at least 54 transferable credit hours , 45 or more of which are from the VCCS. This minimum may include dual enrollment credit, but not AP or IB credit. The University will evaluate AP and IB credit for an admitted student and award credit based on policies in place at the time the student enrolls.

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<p>So, as long as he has at least 45 hours from the CC, that fullfills UVa's requirements, and his AP scores meet UVA standards that fill the rest, he falls under the agreement. But he still needs to fullfill the requirements, which includes languages and sciences and math. So double check on those.</p>

<p>Also, another thing to contemplate is if he really will take advantage of this post-high school. He'll enter as an 18-year old junior. He won't be in first year dorms, and while he may graduate early, I think at some point its just too early. My suggestion would be to take the credit, but still apply as a first year and get the college experience. If he's done well in the CC courses, he should be fine for admissions. He could still graduate early, but while still getting the full college experience. Plus, he could probably easily double major, which could be a very good move.</p>

<p>Good luck though :)</p>

<p>Shoebox, that was a worry of mine also. He was planning to double major regardless, so he will able to do this at a more leisurely pace. Philosophy and Spanish, and possibly minor in another language. His aspiration is to Law School but as a "grown-up";-) I know very well it is very hard to know what you want at age 40 much less 18. I am hoping this will allow him to go lightly on his course load, and take advantage of the breathing room. As for the dorms, I don't know much about UVA's dorm system, if he goes in as a Junior, I am hoping some of the dorms are mixed at least.</p>

<p>I go to a VCC, or I used to. I just got accepted to UVa. I didn't have my degree, because I was shy of two classes (which I am taking this summer). I had a high GPA, so I guess I didn't have to worry about not being accepted since I didn't have my degree. And they will not give you credit for the AP classes the VCC accepted. They will evaluate those separately. And basically what everyone else said was true. Oh, if he is going to transfer then he can live off campus. He doesn't have to worry about on campus housing. I am going in as an 18 year old junior as well (Ill turn 18 like 10 days before the fall semester begins). I am going to double major in Philosophy and International Affairs (you can check the website to see the requirements...some are very flexible and require no prerecs, and others do). What really sucks though, is that I was really interested in applying for the Philosophy Honors program, but the way its set up its very hard for transfer students to apply/get in.</p>

<p>18 year old as a junior? when did you graduate from high school then?</p>

<p>I graduated with the class of 2006, but my original class was 07. I didn't plan it at all, it just happened at the end of the year. In my county you can take algebra in the 8th grade, so I already had four years of math. We only need three years of science, and I took the 4th year of english and government online. Then I used my AP and dual credits (plus credit overload in the fall/spring) at a CC to finish a year early. So now I'll be transfering as a 18 year old junior.</p>

<p>I'm entering UVA at 16 since I'm turning 17 in September. Haha. Pretty young, I guess.. but we don't have junior high in my school (and in most schools in this country actually).</p>