<p>does anyone have personal or secondary information on how difficult it is for someone to get into the CAS if they're OOS?</p>
<p>also, is it even worth the money to attend if someone got into another private/public (instate) school that would be able to offer more financial aid?</p>
<p>thanks for the advice</p>
<p>It is a highly selective school for out of state students. Out of state students that get accepted to UVA also get accepted to the Ivies. That's not to say it's impossible, but you need a good resum</p>
<p>A lot of OOS students who opt going to UVA are also admitted to Duke and Cornell.</p>
<p>I am OOS and got accepted to North Carolina Chapel Hill too. My advice is make sure you work really hard on your essays</p>
<p>For UVA: 2/3 IS, 1/3 OSS</p>
<p>I'd say that OSS stats should be 3.75+ GPA, 1400/2100+ SAT</p>
<p>There are always exceptions and what not but that's a pretty realistic analysis of who gets accepted OSS and with what stats.</p>
<p>As far as the FA question goes, I would say spend the least amount of money possible without too much sacrifice. Always go to a flagship in-state school than another school OSS because you want to save as much as you can at the undergraduate level. I would say the only exception would be getting to an Ivy-caliber school.</p>
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Out of state students that get accepted to UVA also get accepted to the Ivies.
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What's the correlation? Is that almost a general rule?</p>
<p>People believe that the selectivity of UVA OSS is comparable to the Ivy League. I'd say for the most part that it's true.</p>
<p>Well yes, but comparing admission rates is quite misleading. What I meant is that do most OSS students also have acceptances to Ivies, or is that only merely common? (Pure curiosity.)</p>
<p>I think the Ivy comparison is a little strong. My S was accepted at Northwestern/Vandy/Georgetown, but not Duke, and certainly would not have been accepted at one of the top Ivies. MAYBE Cornell or Dartmouth (did not apply). He was accepted to UVA OOS and was not a legacy. S had top level SATs and curriculum, but GPA was a little low.</p>
<p>I think the diff is that for UVA OOS you need either top notch grades with good SATs or vice versa. With Ivies you need top notch for both and a lot of luck.</p>
<p>I wouldn't say that the vast majority of OOS get accepted to Ivies, but many are. The selectivity is similar, and at least in the south has a similar reputation.</p>
<p>I think that is about right. And certainly the OOS Jeff Scholars are Ivy material in most cases.</p>
<p>I'm OOS and don't think I would have had much of a chance at the top ivies.</p>
<p>Some good advice I received during the application process was to really demonstrate that you want to go to the school you are applying to. Admissions ideally wants the people they accept to enroll so if they see two similar applicants but one really shows she wants to attend then who do you think they will accept?</p>
<p>I wouldn't suggest writing your essays about the college but, for example, maybe make a mention when you send your 7th semester grades about how much you loved the visit or something else you found fascinating about the school.</p>
<p>so i guess the most accurate generalization is that OOSers who are accepted to UVA usually apply to ivies as well with both acceptances/rejections, but there are a good number that dont even apply to ivies.</p>
<p>sound good?</p>
<p>sound about right....I would say those who apply to UVA OOS and even in state also apply to very competetive colleges both including and excluding the ivy league. If you expect to be accepted you must be a determined hard working and involved student with statistics to back up your essays.</p>