<p>Look closer at the graduate offerings at Dartmouth, Jags. Methinks they are nearly all in the sciences, medicine, and business. Ergo, for students in the humanities and social sciences, Dartmouth is, in effect, a small liberal arts college (that lots of people have actually heard of--making it a truly unique place). By the way, jags, did you watch the Sopranos last night? And Kenyon_01, was your sneaky comment a way of ensuring each of the colleges being discussed here has an orifice in its name? I'd heard the Kenyon Review was in decline, and now I know why.... I'm surprised you didn't put in a good word for the Crimson Tide down at the U of Analbama. Sorry.</p>
<p>In the name of all that is good and decent, Kenyon_01, please stay away from the threads dealing with the University of Kentucky.</p>
<p>Tourguide, </p>
<p>yes i have looked at the numbers -</p>
<p>at dartmouth this year there are 4,110 total undergraduates at dartmouth this year. there are 602 graduate students in the a&s department (1670 total grad students). Even assuming the entire undergraduate body is doing a&s, this equates to the grad school being roughly 15% the size of its undergraduate counterpart.</p>
<p>at virginia, this year there are 9,976 students in the college. in the graduate school of a&s there are 1,533 students. which also equates to being roughly 15% the size of the undergraduate body.</p>
<p>and yes, I did watch the sopranos - it was pretty good - i'm curious to see where its going to go this season though...obviously tony will be fine. hermmm</p>
<p>Jags, I don't doubt the raw numbers you mention. But Danidebold wants to study some sort of poli-sci-related field, and from what I can tell, the students in that major (and all humanities and social sciences) aren't fighting grad students for profs' attention because Dart's grad offerings are almost all business/medicine/bio/chem/physics. In other words, Dartmouth has some grad students, but the college doesn't claim or aim to be a typical Ivy with a broad range of grad offerings. So if you take a class in a department that doesn't have grad students, you would seem to have a great deal of the profs' attention. Maybe there is a Dartmouth student out there who could shed some light on this. Hey, you guys up in Hanover! Take off the snowshoes and enlighten us! (Also, does Danidebold want to ski?)</p>
<p>By the way, it was 9:15 last night before I realized I wasn't watching a reality show about a Rutgers frat party.</p>
<p>I'm so glad you posted this thread. My d got an encouraging letter from UVA and nothing from Dartmouth so far. I started thinking about the differences, and realized that UVA would probably be a better choice for my daughter than Dartmouth, given that UVA has a wider array of course offerings, the weather is warmer and the social life appears to be a bit better by some accounts. UVA also has the Washington connection and an outstanding Law School.....
UVA's undergrad reputation is also outstanding-- I think it is second only to Berkeley among public schools. We'll probably take a trip down there soon.
If she does get an acceptance from Dartmouth after patiently enduring this "likely letter" mating game, we will of course check it out, but it really is important to feel that the school is a good fit from as many angles as possible. Small differences in reputation should not affect your choice because the choice is four years of your life... and you need to be happy.....and most important-- you need to attend a school that will bring out your talent and passion.</p>
<p>I understand what you're saying about Dartmouth, TG, but I think you have the wrong view of UVa. While Virginia is roughly 3x the size of Dartmouth - if you just break it down % wise - they're almost exactly the same proportionately. </p>
<p>The 600 number at D doesn't include medical students or business students, just as the 1500 number of UVa doesn't include darden or med students. Biology and Physics do fall under that A&S category - and yes, I don't know how many people are seeking math or poly sci degrees at UVa or at D. But, I can say, that one of UVa's stronger, and larger departments is its poly sci department. Since thats the case, I would assume that if UVa's poly sci department is 3x larger than dartmouth's than it also would have 3x as many faculty. </p>
<p>All that being said and done - both UVa and Dartmouths student/faculty ratios hover around 6/1 - and I doubt that it really matters that much if 1 professor has 7 or 6 students to deal with. But at the undergraduate level - I don't think you'll find a substantial benefit from one school over the other.</p>
<p>Anyway, I thought the funniest thing about last night's episode was that carmella kept showing off her new porsche to everyone...but when that other lady had the corvette she got all self conscious lol.</p>
<p>no no no</p>
<p>UVa will kill berkeleye and be ranked #1 in the next us news rankings. they have in the past and will do it again.</p>
<p>to say uva vs. dartmouth is awesome. dart is an ivy league while uva is top public... both are great. uva has hot girls, which is VERY important.</p>
<p>I'm out of ammo, jags. Wouldn't it be ironic if Danidebold eventually got rejected by either school? We would have done all this jousting for nothing.</p>
<p>Anyway, clayvessel is so right about the over-valuation of small differences in rankings and reputation. Va and Dart are both incredibly beautiful places with great academics. But each really does have a different feel (I visited both a couple summers ago). I'm sure that people who got into both would have no trouble making a decision once they visited both places.</p>
<p>I was sure Tony was going to pick up the whole train set and throw it against the garage wall.</p>
<p>haha - that is true tourguide. Also, I'm not trying to say that UVa is a better choice than dartmouth - I'm just arguing that one isn't superior to the other. If the OP decides to go to either school over the other - he hasn't made a wrong choice - I don't think you can make a wrong choice when you're choosing between 2 great schools. But I felt UVa needed a little defending because when it comes to it - just because a school is larger - it doesn't mean that it is less personal. </p>
<p>Remember, cornell and penn are the exact same size as UVa, but no one claims those schools are impersonal.</p>
<p>UVa's girls are definitely more attractive physically.................</p>
<p>which school's girls are the most beautiful on the inside though?</p>
<p>3 of the most horrendous, yet gorgeous girls went to UVa last year from my school...lol that means nothing and they just happened to be cruel and i'm sure there are plenty of amazingly nice girls at UVa as well...but I found the people at Dartmouth more down to earth, a little less snotty, and not so preppy. maybe I went on a bad day</p>
<p>by horrendous do you mean high maintenance?</p>
<p>university of virginia IS preppy though. i have to agree with that.</p>
<p>OneMorningStar,</p>
<p>Ah, the Plastics. You gotta love them. Former Saturday Night Live Headwriter Tina Fey, who created "Mean Girls" went to UVa. I wonder if she was thinking about some of her fellow UVa classmates when she wrote it (though it does take place in high school.) Haha...</p>