<p>hi guys, </p>
<p>I am really struggling with deciding between these two Universities. </p>
<p>I am in LSA for Mich and CAS for UVa... I want to go on to do business. But maybe engineering, I do not know yet. </p>
<p>I don't mind the cold weather in Michigan.. I have asked a few people, and I just wanted to get to know a few more opinions. So it would be great to know your opinion!</p>
<p>If you want business, then go to UVA.</p>
<p>Are you crazy barboza, Michigan’s Ross is much better than Mcintire. </p>
<p>I’m also accepted to both LSA/CAS for both schools. I want to study Economics and perhaps business. My first advice is, if you know you will want to study business, or economics associated to it, Michigan is better. However, UVa’s economics program is also quite solid, although it’s business is weaker than Ross.</p>
<p>One thing we need to note here is that Michigan’s business is one of the best in the nation. Few people say McIntire is.</p>
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<p>lol, Jamiecago jumps between Michigan and UVA all the time. </p>
<p>If you are passionate about engineering and business, then go to Michigan. But Ross and McIntire are academic peers and there isn’t a single job one school will get you that the other can’t. Go to both schools and see which one you like more. They are two completely different feels and one may suit you better than the other. </p>
<p>Academically speaking, you are fine either way.</p>
<p>No, I’m not crazy. The numbers speak for themselves. According to Businessweek rankings, McIntire has been in the top 2 for the last several years along with Wharton. UVA is a target school for ibanks/consulting firms whereas Michigan isn’t. I have many friends on Wall Street who know the recruiting numbers and I doubt you do.</p>
<p>Please, don’t even start giving me businessweek ranks and put stuff like:
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<p>I like both UVa and UMich, but when talking about business schools people definitely recommend going to Ross. I got this post from a person who works in Goldman Sachs, and I believe this definitely reflects well how the academic clique is treated. I’m not saying McIntire sucks, but I believe a name value and the reputation that follows does matter, ESPECIALLY if you are going to work in investment banking.</p>
<p>Target: HPW
Commands almost as much respect, but self selection makes firms wary: YS+MIT (MAYBE sloan)
Respected: C
Not really respected, but recognized as a decent vocational school: Duke Dart
Only has presence because jews werent allowed at HYP sixty years ago: Ross, Stern
Don’t fool yourself: Brown, Cornell CAS
Fishery: NU Chi WashU Corn AEM
Have fun doing my taxes for $19.95: TOP TEN BUSINESS SCHOOLS!!! at state schools (UIUC, McComb)
Also, you deserve to be screwed if you chose the following: any UG b-school not mentioned above.</p>
<p>Of course, the above statement is extremely personal…but people who work in financial field do get personal. The statement above does by no means reflect my belief, but I’m just posting because A LOT of people agree with it.</p>
<p>And by a lot of people you mean this one particular person who claims to work in GS?</p>
<p>Don’t add to the flame barboza. The OP can look up stats/rankings and know the better choice, especially if they’re instate. Plus, it snows just as much here as Mich, but at least it’s happy and sunny outside for half the year.</p>
<p>OP: one plus that many of the comm school/econ majors found is the proximity to DC. DC, while not the best financial district, is pretty darn big in the financial world. I’d say, of comm school friends, about 50% are moving to DC, 25% to NYC, and the other 25% are scattered elsewhere (NC for Wachovia is 2 of my friends). Econ, easily 75% are moving to DC. A lot of DC firms hire from UVa because there isn’t a whole lot else within a 2-4 hour drive.</p>
<p>No. A lot of people who actually work in investment banks. These include Barclays, GS or JPMorgan. You should realise that the top spots of these places are FILLED with graduates of Wharton and HYP. I wonder why.</p>
<p>I’m trying to say that if you want to maximize your connection, you need to go into a school with greatest reputation as well as academic excellence. Hence, one who wants to be involved in financial/investment fields, one should go to Ross over McIntire.</p>
<p>P.S - I’m not trying to create an argument. I’m affiliated with neither McIntire nor Ross. If someone working in investment bank says I’m wrong, I’ll shut up. But I’m just trying to give as much information that reflects reality of what I’ve heard and seen. thanks.</p>
<p>You can believe that Ross is better than McIntire, but Business Week has ranked McIntire over Ross since the magazine’s inception. The criteria is based on several factors such as faculty quality and salary. Look at the placement of Ross and McIntire into ibanks and consulting firms. McIntire has better placement.</p>
<p>If you want to go to a land-grand university that feels like Ohio State then go to UMich, where the acceptance rate is almost 50% and the avg. class is held at a 500-person auditorium. If you want to come to an ultra-selective school that feels like a private school, come to the University. I’m sure Ann Arbor gets ~tons~ of Wall Street recruiters in the winter, much more so than McIntire.</p>
<p>“the avg. class is held at a 500-person auditorium”</p>
<p>Wrong</p>
<p>“If you want to go to a land-grand university that feels like Ohio State”</p>
<p>Is “intro to elitism” a required course at UVA, or did you take that as an elective?</p>
<p>It’s called ~Intro to Mr. Jefferson’s University~ duh</p>
<p>I have the utmost respect for UVA. Personally, I feel us “Public Ivies” have to stick together, especially on CC where we are so profoundly underestimated. But c’mon, those were low blows which were not at all based on facts. Especially here, where teenagers advice for important decisions, lets keep everything grounded in reality.</p>
<p>I agree Hattrickty9. The fact is that both of these schools are target schools for investment banks and consulting firms. There isn’t a single job that one school can get you that the other can’t. </p>
<p>OP: Go to both schools and see which one will fit you more. There isn’t much we can really say as they are both dead even.</p>
<p>If anybody feels McIntire blows Ross out of the water, I would love to see you post that in the Michigan forum. I am sure they would have a ton to say to you. Now lets stop bashing two highly respected programs and give the OP some real advice.</p>
<p>Both B schools place OK on Wall Street. Neither is in Wharton’s league for that–if you want that. Both schools have good placement reports with the facts. Businessweek’s ranking is BS. Schools move up and down willy-nilly all based on student surveys that are easily manipulated…</p>
<p>I was amused by the exchange!</p>
<p>The reality is that classes in UMich are huge. My brother went there. UVA on the other hand offers smaller classes, especially at McIntire where class size doesn’t exceed 30-40 people. Regarding recruiting, Wall Street recruits heavily at UVA. JPM, GS, McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Susquiehanna, etc. all come to UVA in career fairs and on special events to give presentations. The recruiting captain from each of these companies is always a UVA grad.</p>
<p>I agree w you, I do too hold Michigan in the highest regards, I was just grossly exaggerating my claims bc the other poster seemed so keen on putting down UVA. Anyway, or you really trying to transfer? Is Michigan too cold for you?</p>
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