UVA or UMiami($)?

College Search & Selection
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<p>I was accepted to the University of Miami (Honors Program) with a $28,000 scholarship {comes out to 17k a year} before I was accepted to the University of Virginia as an out of state student for full tuition {37k a year}. I want to study business as an undergrad, but want to eventually go law school. Do you think it is worth the extra $80,000 over four years to go to UVA for undergrad or should i take the money and most likely a higher GPA at Miami?</p>

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<p>even though UVA has one of the best business schools in the country, UMiami also has an excellent business program and you are in the honors program. Plus you want to go to law school so if you can good grades at a not-as-competitive school like UMiami, it might be better for you. My advice: take the money and run to Miami</p>

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<p>80k more is not worth for UVA, unless you are rich. And UM is a pretty good school. Not on the same level as UVA, but close and not a pushover.</p>

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<p>Any reason why you want to study business as a UG?</p>

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<p>i want to eventually go into business. it just would be so hard to turn down the opportunity of UVA. any other opinions with all things considered?</p>

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<p>Don’t forget that Donna Shalala recruited the head of the Wharton undergraduate program to run Miami’s business school recently. She also brought along some prominent Wharton professors.</p>

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<p>I too vote for Miami. UVA is an excellent university, but I would not consider it worth an extra $80K.</p>

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<p>thanks for the input. anyone for UVA?</p>

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<p>I say go for UVA. I can tell by your posts that you really want to go there. Do what makes you happy. If your parents don’t mind paying for it go to UVA.</p>

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<p>i honestly am not leaning either way im still really confused</p>

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<p>Miami!!!</p>

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<p>As SVM stated, Dean Kahn brought in many from Wharton and is rapidly accelerating the program.</p>

<p>Many top grads from UM Biz school grads go on to law. Think about it. Yes, when you start out in law you are a working person at first but as you gain age and experience you become a junior partner then to senior partner or you have your own firm…what are these? Yep, small to medium sized business’</p>

<p>Go to Miami, the peers you will work with are from all over the country and around the world and over half graduated in the Top 5% of their HS classes</p>

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<p>The prestige of your undergrad institution plays a big factor in where you end up going to law school. If you look at where first year law students at the top law schools (such as UVA, Yale and Harvard), you will notice that most have gone to Ivy Leagues and peer schools. </p>

<p>[Class</a> of 2010 Profile](<a href=“http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospectives/class10.htm]Class”>http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/prospectives/class10.htm)</p>

<p>This is where the students studied for their undergrad at UVA Law (Top 10 Law School), I don’t see Miami being represented. UVA undergrads—44 students. You could establish VA residency and your chances to get into UVA Law would increase. </p>

<p>The money is a big issue and I understand, but you have to recognize that you would be foregoing an opportunity not to only attend a first-rate university, but of going to a top law school. </p>

<p>Here’s UVA placement for its undergrads at different law schools: </p>

<p><a href=“http://www.career.virginia.edu/students/preprof/prelaw/lawstats_2008.pdf[/url]”>http://www.career.virginia.edu/students/preprof/prelaw/lawstats_2008.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>wahoomb what that chart shows is that the prestige DOES NOT MATTER</p>

<p>look at the list and tell me if going to St. Mary’s College Of Maryland or Southeast Missouri State University will affect your chances of getting into UVA law school…</p>

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<p>There are whole discussions on collegeconfidential and it is a known fact that where you go for undergrad DOES matter a whole lot when applying to law school. </p>

<p><a href=“http://web.archive.org/web/20000829094953/http://www.pcmagic.net/abe/gradeadj.htm[/url]”>http://web.archive.org/web/20000829094953/http://www.pcmagic.net/abe/gradeadj.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>This is for example how UC Berkeley Law used to reformulate the GPA of applicants depending on where they went to school. As the chart shows below, if the applicant above were to go to Miami (supposing that UC Berkeley–a top 6 law school, still used this system) would have his GPA lowered and if he went to UVA, it would have his GPA increased. </p>

<p>If you go to Southeast Missouri State and you go want to go to Harvard Law, you would pretty much a 4.0 and a 179+. If you went to UVA, you’d need a 3.8 and a 170. Take it as you will, but there’s evidence that if you do want to go to a TOP Law school, your undergrad matters and they will be more lenient with your GPA and to a certain extent, your LSAT score.</p>

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<p>and then again UMiami can’t be compared to Southeast Missouri State…</p>

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<p>They really are very different schools socially - Have you visited them/ done any research on student life? That could definitely guide you in one direction over the other.</p>

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<p>Let me guess-- you’re an 18 year old high school senior from MA who’s going to Clemson in the fall. You most likely don’t know anything about law school as you haven’t even experienced college yet. Your knowledge is very limited and not informative at all. Do the OP a favor and stop posting on his thread, you’re confusing yourself more than you need to.</p>

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<p>haha ok I’ll do that a favor, but we probably need more people giving this guy advice than just you alone so that we can build up a “consensus” for the OP.</p>

<p>also that was a pretty lame comeback to my statement:</p>

<p>Me: and then again UMiami can’t be compared to Southeast Missouri State… </p>

<p>You: Let me guess-- you’re an 18 year old high school senior from MA who’s going to Clemson in the fall. You most likely don’t know anything about law school as you haven’t even experienced college yet. Your knowledge is very limited and not informative at all. Do the OP a favor and stop posting on his thread, you’re confusing yourself more than you need to.</p>

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Not at all surprising. Law school admissions consists largely of GPA and LSAT scores. The Ivies and similar colleges have great law school placement because they admit and enroll great students…it’s as simple as that.</p>

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  1. That system is ten years old and no longer in use.</p>

<ol>
<li>The system was intended to compensate for grade inflation/deflation, not give a boost to applicants from elite colleges.</li>
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