<p>can someone please give an answer to this dilemma...</p>
<p>I am interested in business and like both UVa and UNC however, being from NY, i dont have the time or money to actually visit these schools and, again, being from the North, i do not know exactly what makes these schools different from each other...i have been told that both are very similar so i should only apply to one...i already have A LOT of school on my list so i have to cut one of these out...</p>
<p>which one is better...or at least what characterizes each one so i can pick</p>
<p>I think UVA probably has the stronger overall reputation, but UNC is not that far behind. Its also not a large enough difference that the reputation of the schools will make any difference. The business school at UVA is also more reputable than the UNC. </p>
<p>Both are in excellent college towns and are similarly sized.</p>
<p>you know...i also have enough money to buy a rolls royce if i really wanted to...its not worth it for me to go down to virginia and north carolina from NY (takes more than a couple of hours u kno)..to check out 2 similar schools that r not my top priority and that i dont even consider reaches...</p>
<p>Unless you are a really strong candidate (i.e., with a very good shot at admission to Ivies or top ten LACs), UVa is pretty much a reach for an out of stater; UNC takes an even smaller percentage of out of state applicants than UVa does but I don't know if the applicant pool is quite as strong--it may be, but it is difficult to get statistics that break down the in-state versus out of state profiles. In any case, if you are interested in them you ought to apply but certainly not on the assumption that because they are state universities you are likiely to be admitted.</p>
<p>"you know...i also have enough money to buy a rolls royce if i really wanted to...its not worth it for me to go down to virginia and north carolina from NY (takes more than a couple of hours u kno)..to check out
2 similar schools that r not my top priority and that i dont even consider reaches"</p>
<p>If it does not matter to you that much why should we care?</p>
<p>The schools are similar as you note....southern in feel, a lot of spirit,solid academics...UVA maybe more conservative and a little better rep....worth seeing if you have a free weekend.</p>
<p>The out of state applicant pool to UNC is quite strong. When you consider that they are limited to 18% out of state enrollment and subtract recruited athletes from that number the actual number of out of state (non-athlete) students admitted each year is very small. Out of state applicants outnumber in-state applicants yet fewer are accepted so the selection process is keen and the profile of accepted students is very high (remember that recruited athletes impact the SAT and GPA numbers here as well and because the total pool is smaller, the impact is greater). </p>
<p>We know of a number of students accepted to UVA and either deferred or rejected from UNC. UVA's out of state percentage is considerably higher.</p>
<p>My son reports that his circle of friends (mostly out of staters) are all "amazing". Many are either Moreheads, Robertsons, Carolina Scholars, or Davie Scholars. UNC has very good merit aid which helps them attract top out of state students.</p>
<p>There is an ongoing debate to increase the percentage of out of state students. One side understands that the out of state students are not only an overall stronger pool but also have emerged as the main campus leaders. Something like 4 of the last 6 student body presidents have been out of staters, not to mention leaders of many of the main campus organizations. There is also the added tuition dollars that the higher percentage would contribute. An interesting side argument to this is that many top accepted in-state students choose to attend schools other than UNC because they feel it lacks geographic diversity and strongly are in favor of upping the percentage of out of state students.</p>
<p>The other side is that Carolina has established the Carolina Covenant which is designed to make sure that a Carolina education be available to any qualified in-state student regardless of their ability to pay.</p>
<p>As to the towns, my son's best friend from HS is at UVA and he has visited several times. His opinion (and that of his friend as well) is thatChapel Hill is a better college town with far more things to do. UNC also doesn't have as strong a Greek presence or its impact the social scene as well.</p>
<p>bigjake: Don't know what you consider a reach, but to be competitive for either UVa or UNC out of staters need to be well into top 10% and 1450+.</p>