UVa or UNC

<p>can someone please give an answer to this dilemma...</p>

<p>I am interested in business and like both UVa and UNC however, being from NY, i dont have the time or money to actually visit these schools and, again, being from the North, i do not know exactly what makes these schools different from each other...i have been told that both are very similar so i should only apply to one...i already have A LOT of school on my list so i have to cut one of these out...</p>

<p>which one is better...or at least what characterizes each one so i can pick</p>

<p>I know that i am posting on the UVa page here, but i would appreciate honest and unbiased responses...thanks</p>

<p>You know, both schools are pretty similar and both undergraduate business schools are good. I believe Neelesh's post "How is life at Virginia?" has details about UVa that you might find interesting. Neelesh also posted a "How is life at UNC?" in Carolina's section as well. </p>

<p>If those posts still don't give you enough info, what characteristics are you looking for in the other schools you're applying to up North? We can tell you if UVa or UNC better fits the bill.</p>

<p>I would apply to both UVA and UNC Chapel.</p>

<p>semper...i would do...but i REALLY cant...my college list is already extremely long especially considering that theyre both similar...</p>

<p>globalist...in terms of what im looking for...both schools fit (and u admitted yourself that theyre pretty similar)...ill tell u that my ideal school is Wharton UPenn and i got deferred ED from there...the next schools on my list are cornell, NYU Stern, and Harvard...if that helps you...</p>

<p>thanks a lot guys...im really rushing this college process with the schools that i have not visited and i appreciate any help</p>

<p>You know, to help you out I began perusing my "Barron's Guide to the Most Competitive Colleges" to read up on UNC, and lo and behold, the book did not include North Carolina. That said, here goes nothing...</p>

<p>Between UVa and UNC, I would choose UVa. (Surprise, surprise...this is a UVa thread after all.) For business, I think UVa is more well-known than UNC, especially up here in NY with tons of graduates from the McIntire School of Commerce (undergrad business school) and The Darden School (MBA) populating the Tri-State area. Plus in this bad economy, 82% of McIntire students graduated w/ jobs, and 7% went on to grad school. </p>

<p>Now I notice that you seem to be applying to mostly Ivy League schools, and UVa has more of an Ivy League feel than UNC. </p>

<p>First of all, UVa is the original "Public Ivy." The term was first coined by writer William Faulkner who used it to describe The University of Virginia at an academic conference. </p>

<p>Secondly, UVa has a very unique history. Similar to U. Penn, which was created by Benjamin Franklin, UVa was founded and designed by a Founding Father: Thomas Jefferson. In fact, Jefferson, James Madison, and James Monroe (who all comprised UVa's original governing board) physically laid down UVa's cornerstone in 1817. Among Virginia's earliest students were Edgar Allan Poe and Fernando Bolivar, who matriculated because of his father's deep admiration for Jefferson. (Fernando's father: Simon Bolivar, Liberator of South America).</p>

<p>Thirdly, UVa has very unique traditions and organizations, from having 4 secret societies, to having the oldest continuously-existing collegiate debating organization (The Jefferson Society), to using terms like "first-year," "second-year," etc. rather than "freshman," "sophomore." (Jefferson thought learning was a life-long endeavour, so he believed that no one could ever be a "senior" in knowledge.)</p>

<p>Lastly, the University really cares about its undergraduates, more so that most public research universities (read the "Center for Undergraduate Excellence" thread), and it provides good financial aid for out-of-state students. (Read the "Financial Aid & Merit Scholarships @ UVa" thread.)</p>

<p>So, there you have it. UNC is a great school, but if I had to choose between applying to only one of the schools, I would pick UVa. BTW, if you want more info. about UVa (i.e. brochures, prospectus, etc.) stop by the Yale Club of NY on the corner of 44th St. & Vanderbilt Avenue. UVa (along w/ Dartmouth) shares the clubhouse w/ Yale. (FYI, UVa is the only non-Ivy League school to be "in residence" at an Ivy League clubhouse in Manhattan.) Talk to the UVa Club Director on the 7th Fl. She can hook you up w/ material or at the very least, order it for you.</p>

<p>wow globalist...first off...i just have to thank you for taking the time to actually consult a book and to write that much...</p>

<p>u practically read my mind...one of the reasons i applied to penn is because of its interesting history and i was well aware of the legacy UVa had behind it...what you just wrote combined with numerous other things that i have heard have convined me to drop UNC...i would love to apply to both but i just dont have time and if NYU or cornell or even wharton (hey it could happen) accepts me, ill probably just stay up here...thanks a lot...UVa sounds very dsitinguishing...</p>

<p>if ur an alumni recruiter...you should be proud...</p>

<p>No, I'm not a recruiter...just an obsessed alum. On my "free time," I'm a TV producer.</p>

<p>Well, if you consider UVa's MCIntire School of Commerce being the 7th best in nation, I'd definitely go to University of Virginia. UNC is a good school of course, but there is something in UVA that makes it the best public on planet. For graduate studies, UVA boasts the famous Darden School of Business. If you're for business, do not even hesitate to come to UVA</p>

<p>Personally, I believe UVa is the best amalgamation in American education. As a mid-sized college, you have the intimacy, great student/teacher interaction, and undergraduate emphasis of a small LAC coupled with the opportunies offered in a large research university. UVa is a public school (that strives to be affordable for both its in-state & out-of-state students), yet it has an aristocratic, Ivy League air to it. Virginia challenges itself to be progressive in education and research, but it also reveres its traditions and glorious history. It's a school that's not only recognized (by the United Nations at that!) for its world-renowned beauty and architectural significance, but it also has a reputation for having attractive students, who are not only intelligent but are also physically fit. Politically, it's a moderate school with vocal conservative and liberal student organizations. With 25% of the student body being minorities (African-American - 10%, Asian - 12%, Hispanic - 3%), UVa supports them at a level unparalleled by its peer public schools, evidenced by UVa's high student graduation rate. Though Virginia has a strong Greek system with 30% of the student body in a frat/sorority, it also has a diverse and active non-Greek life w/ over 300 student organizations on Grounds. It's a college where one studies hard and parties hard. </p>

<p>When I first visited, I immediately fell in love with The University of Virginia. What other school in America can you go and know that as you stand on the Rotunda steps on the Lawn, so many other leaders have stood on those very steps before you? Thomas Jefferson (who founded the University), James Madison (who became UVa's rector after Jefferson died), James Monroe (who was also on UVa's governing board along w/ Jefferson & Madison), the Marquis de Lafayette (who was UVa's first state visitor), General Custer (of "Custer's Last Stand" who spared UVa from destruction during the Civil War), William Faulkner (UVa's first writer-in-residence), Queen Elizabeth II (who chose UVa as one of the few places she wanted to visit during America's bicentennial in 1976), the Dalai Lama and Archbishop Desmond Tutu (who were among the 9 Nobel Peace Prize recipients who participated in UVa's World Peace conference in 1999), and former students Edgar Allan Poe, Woodrow Wilson, Robert F. Kennedy and Ted Kennedy. In fact, you can check out Edgar Allan Poe's old room on the Range (Rm. 13), as well as Woodrow Wilson's (Rm. 31).</p>