UVA vs. NYU Stern

Colleges and Universities A-Z University of Virginia
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<p>For economics and business economics.</p>

<p>I am an Echols Scholar, but it doesn't look like it's going to be a tipping factor. I am an international student and have to pay full price at both. UVA tuition is around $50k and Stern is around $60k, but in Stern, I'll have to live in New York City, adding a lot of extra costs.</p>

<p>Obviously, I am interested in going into business/finance. Job and internship opportunities are very important to me. I have to excel and find myself good opportunities to get a job in the US after I graduate. Alumni networks are a plus. I heard Stern has a terrible curve, but haven't heard much about UVA's grade in/deflation. I think I can do with big classes, but I'll have a really hard time with bad grade deflation.</p>

<p>The catch with Stern is that I may want to major in physics later. I don't know a lot about business and finance and very unsure about my future career path. But I'll have to apply to the UVA Commerce School in freshman year if I want to get in anyway(I think).</p>

<p>Also, I am really big on the music scene when it comes to figuring out what college would be a good fit for me (that's basically all I do for fun). NYU is clearly better in this respect, but then, I'll probably be broke if I went there. I know virtually nothing about Charlottesville the city.</p>

<p>This is kind of a stupid angle, but I would like a functional (not necessarily big) dating/partying scene too. I don't know how much of that goes on at NYU without a campus and their large gay population. UVA probably has a healthy amount of dating and partying going on.</p>

<p>FYI, other schools I am also considering are Davidson College and Boston College, but UVA and NYU are my top choices.</p>

<p>Any help is appreciated!</p>

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<p>I know next to nothing about NYU, but I can give some input on UVA!</p>

<p>You apply to the comm school your second year. I believe it’s quite competitive, so you’ll want to have some sort of fallback in the event you are not accepted (many end up majoring in econ). If you’re thinking about physics, that would definitely be doable at UVA while also taking econ classes if you decide you’re still interested in business after taking the prereqs.</p>

<p>Charlottesville actually has a pretty good music scene! I’m not exactly sure what type of music you’re into, but there are many concerts held on grounds, with larger concerts at John Paul Jones arena. Lady Gaga was here last fall as well as Muse. Also, there’s the Jefferson theater and the Charlottesville pavilion which have frequent concerts.</p>

<p>The party scene here is good as well, there are many frat parties as well as apartment/house parties if you’re interested in going out.</p>

<p>I hope this helps!</p>

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<p>right, </p>

<p>NYU you go straight to business school, UVA you have to apply McIntire --McIntire consistently ranked # 2 by business week,</p>

<p>NYU center of the greatest city on earth, even has its own song – taxi (money), subway (money), air quality, amount of people during major holidays, noise, not looking up and seeing the stars</p>

<p>Charlottesville-- nice college town, green grass, blue skies, clean air</p>

<p>NYU- sports? HA!
UVA- sports? all</p>

<p>its a trade off but I think we both know the obvious answer =p</p>

<p>but i am strongly biased towards UVA</p>

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<p>my friend goes to NYU (in Stern as a freshmen) and he hates it. says the competition is really cutthroat. He’s looking to transfer out of there, fwiw. It seems like with NYU you either absolutely love it, or you can’t stand it at all. It’s a different kind of college experience, that’s for sure</p>

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<p>That sucks that he can not even enjoy the college experience. My friend at Wharton says its so bad that students will literally sabotage your grades.</p>

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<p>I don’t know how NYU works, but at UVA, you could easily take the prereqs for the Comm school alongside the prereqs for the physics major (I believe there’s even some overlap in the math classes). Once you’re at a good university you will probably pretty quickly realize which path is better for you, but it can be hard to do so before you go somewhere where you have real intellectual peers–esp. because economics isn’t generally offered in high school. At UVA you won’t need to declare a physics major, or to apply to the Comm School, until the end of your sophomore year, so you have time to make up your mind.</p>

<p>There’s quite a thriving and diverse music scene in C-ville given the size of the city. Obviously there is going to be way more in NYC. However, there’s a limit to what you are going to be able to go to in either case given your academic obligations, and tickets will be pricer in NYC.</p>

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<p>As a current NY’er I could never see myself going to college at NYU. The pace is SO upbeat. I mean, people seem like they constantly are in a rush. A southern school gives such a different feel. </p>

<p>^ just my two cents</p>

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<p>Charlottesville is very artsy fartsy, as I like to call it. =] There is a lot of diversity and acceptance in the city, so don’t be surprised to see all kinds of musical acts and such. Cville brings a lot of talent in for concerts and stuff. Dave Matthews Band originated in Cville. Lamb of God (heavy metal) came from Richmond, and they come to Cville occasionally. If you are looking for music, Cville is a nice place to come, don’t worry too much about that. In terms of environment, Cville is a suburban/rural transitionary area. What I mean by that is, if you are driving up toward the airport, there is a lot of switching between neighborhoods and just plain trees. There is a feeling of a nice small city/town, but also a place where nature dominates. If you are into outdoors, Cville is the place to be. Shenandoah Valley is about 30-60 minutes away, depending on which location you are heading. </p>

<p>NYU is expensive, but so is Cville. Cville is actually more expensive than people anticipate. It’s nowhere near as bad as NYU though, so UVA definitely trumps NYU on that note.</p>

<p>In terms of majors, business at UVA is number 2, arguably number 1 in the nation. Wharton and McIntire are very close in terms of quality. The sciences at UVA are also wonderful. In fact, the director of Physics at UVA sent me an email because the Office of Undergraduate Admissions saw my keen interest in majoring in Physics. Dr. Norum recommended me to a few professors to talk to at Day on the Lawn. They faculty is just wonderful, don’t hesitate about majors at UVA, you’re covered. </p>

<p>As for NYU majors, I know they have a phenomenal math department, but the specific Physics department, I have no idea. Rankings don’t really matter for Undergrad though, they are both top-notch Universities.</p>

<p>UVA has a nice party scene, as well as a nice dating scene. A lot of students participate in Greek life, but it doesn’t dominate the University. There is a nice ratio, so parties are definitely plentiful, but nobody sees wasted students rioting every night or anything haha.</p>

<p>NYU is in New York obviously, so I’m sure there is a lot of partying and dating and such. But with the whole “lack of campus” thing, I personally would think it’s a little more unorganized and comfortable. But maybe I’m slightly biased.</p>

<p>The UVA Alumni network is arguably the best public University network in the nation. It has the highest endowment of all public Universities at somewhere near 4.5 billion (Around 200 thousand dollars per attending student!). University of Michigan-Ann Arbor is in second, with only half the amount of endowment. That just goes to show that UVA’s alumni network is very well funded and powerful. They love UVA and contribute as much as possible. </p>

<p>I hope you feel the same way about UVA, and attend the University. I also hope you ditch the idea of business and do Physics with me =P. Good luck with your decision, and I hope I helped you out in a relatively unbiased way (I put in a little bit of bias, but don’t blame me). =]</p>

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<p>This isn’t true. McIntire is an excellent business school, and definitely top 10. However, the Business Week rankings are complete ******** and everyone knows it. McIntire is not ‘arguably’ number 1, nor is it close. Wharton is the CLEAR number one, then there’s a gap, then there’s schools like Ross and Sloan, followed by Stern and Haas. Following that would be schools like McIntire.</p>

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<p>I’m not arguing against the UVa Alumni network being amazing (because I’m sure it is), but I don’t know where you’re getting your figure from? Michigan’s endowment is like 6th or 7th in the nation, at around 6.5 billion or something like that. So I don’t know where you’re getting that ‘half’ estimate. However, the amount per student is probably a little bit higher, because I think Michigan’s is something like 180k or around there.</p>