<p>What do you guys think?</p>
<p>what would be like the mimimum SAT, gpa, SAT II's reequired to get into these schools out of state?</p>
<p>I don't know about UNC, but there isn't a minimum GPA or SAT score to get into UVA.</p>
<p>I don't know about out of state, but in state, competition is getting very hard for UVA. You can have an SAT in the 1500ish range and get rejected, flat-out, early decision. For example, I know UVA rejected my school's president last year - ouch. I don't know his stats but.. schools hardly ever reject early! They always defer...</p>
<p>UVA emphasizes the GPA over other things, like course load, in my opinion. This other guy took maybe two APs his senior year, maintaining an easy course load so he could up his GPA, but my friend took four, didn't do poorly but didn't get straight A's, and she got rejected. Life's unfair :(</p>
<p>I agree w/ Snuff. A relative of mine went to high school in VA, and for some odd reason, her school had 2 valedictorians & 2 salutatorians. All 4 of them were rejected by UVa.</p>
<p>UVA is looking for Legacys, that and only that will put you over the top for UVA..that is the my last hope...but h/e it is incredily easier to transfer into UVA...which is the path i have set for my self w/ SAT scores not where there they should be..only 1360 and im out of state h/e my father went there..is a heavy donor...and i have also had 2 uncles who were professors there and one who was a dean...so if i get in it is only cuz of that</p>
<p>but as to the original ? for UVA out of state i would recomend upper 1300 lower 1400 to even dream and for UNC out i would recomend 1450+</p>
<p>Well, UVa really isn't looking for legacies, but if you were put in the "maybe" pile during the admissions process, being a legacy could tip the scales in your favor. Ten percent of the class are composed of legacies. Also, if you're an out-of-state legacy, UVa will put your application in the "in-state" pile, so you have a better chance of getting in than regular out-of-state applicants.</p>
<p>Does a grandfather count for legacy?</p>
<p>I could be wrong, but I think UVa considers legacies to be children (and possibly siblings) of UVa grads. I have a friend here in NY who's from Long Island. He has 5 brothers, and all 6 of them went to UVa. I'm not sure about the grandparent connection. To double-check, contact the UVa Admissions Office.</p>
<p>no grandfather is not a legacy w/ college...h/e w/ a fraternity...a brother a father or a grandfather is a legacy</p>
<p>umm people at my school were accepted at uva w/ 1150's last year, some even lower.... i think its because of demographics</p>
<p>Last year at our northeastern out-of-state HS, the two acceptees had 1500+ board scores. The year before that, the only acceptance was the student who was first in the class, with upper 1400's boards.</p>
<p>Out of state if not a legacy very competitive....ideally top 10% and SAT>1400 to get in the running.</p>
<p>Just warning you guys, but I'm an out of stater applying RD and my school's admissions counselor (who seriously knows her stuff) said that UVa would be a reach for me (rank: 21/655) but that both my parents went there so that makes it a safety. She's been in college admissions for years so she's probably right when she says that legacy is huge at UVA.</p>
<p>what is ur SAT indy? cuz top 5..legacy is looking real nice...when ur a leg...they stick u in the "in-state" pile for acceptance</p>
<p>1560, my school just has a semi-bad record with UVA because of a girl who applied early and then didn't go without having the best reason a few years ago, i just wanted to put that out there because it shows that legacies are huge there, especially if you have both parents who got multiple degrees there :P</p>
<p>Did anybody even mention the comparison of UVA to UNC???</p>
<p>lol.......no</p>
<p>This is my reply to the "Best Public Universities" Thread that you all might find interesting:</p>
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<p>Let's look at public colleges in a more personal way. Two questions that often come up when thinking about schools are:</p>
<p>[1] Will I graduate on time (or in some cases, at all)? Public schools generally have lower graduation rates than private schools.</p>
<p>[2] Will I be happy at a particular college? One way of measuring happiness is alumni giving. If you're happy, then you're more willing to give back.</p>
<p>Using Alexandre's schools, here are the graduation rates & alumni giving rates. I find it interesting that the 2 schools w/ the highest graduation rates (UVa and William & Mary) are also the 2 schools w/ the most alumni giving. Furthermore, these 2 schools are also the most well-known for excellent undergraduate teaching & superb student-teacher interaction. When a school cares about its students, makes sure the professors are engaged & connected to the student body, and ensures that matriculants graduate rather than simply getting lost in the system, the alums are willing to return their gratitude. </p>
<p>University of Virginia - 92%, 27%
College of William and Mary - 91%, 26%
University of California-Los Angeles - 85%, 13%
University of California-Berkeley - 84%, 15%,
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor - 84%, 15%
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill - 80%, 20%
University of Illinois-Urbana Champaign - 80%, 12%
University of Wisconsin-Madison - 77%, 14%
University of Texas-Austin - 71%, 12%</p>
<p>from what I heard they are both pretty hard to get into from out of state...my first choice is UVA and applied ED... very good gpa and sat's, what I think are good ec's, hope my essays are good enough....and hear comments from people to forget about it...i am trying to think positively and are hoping that they have no clue about what they are talking about</p>