<p>A few Questions about these 2 schools.</p>
<li><p>Which one has a better Atmospheric Sciences Program?</p></li>
<li><p>Which one is easier to get into? (I live in MN)</p></li>
<li><p>Which one has a better college life?</p></li>
<li><p>Which one is, overall, in all aspects, better?</p></li>
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<li><p>about equal</p></li>
<li><p>I think madison though i'm not sure.</p></li>
<li><p>about the same, but i like washington more.</p></li>
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<p>They are comparable institutions, but the UW is gradute-focused.</p>
<p>Just an FYI, anywhere east of the Rockies "the UW" refers to Wisconsin.</p>
<p>I thought Washington was referred to as "U Dub" anyway. Wisconsin is never referred to that way.</p>
<p>You get in-state tuition benefit at UWisc which makes the choice rather obvious.</p>
<p>^ Agreed.....</p>
<p>I believe U Dub (thanks MilwDad) is easier to get into, though my reasoning is only anecdotal; I live in Wisconsin and one of my son's friends applied to both and was accepted only at U Dub.</p>
<p>But, why would you pass up in-state tuition by going to Seattle? Are you interested in living in the Pacific Northwest? If that's it, head out there! But, if you're looking at things from a value for dollar point-of-view, doing your undergrad at a school that's probably 1/3 the cost and at least the same, if not better, caliber seems the way to go. </p>
<p>Also, with the airline industry in the state it's in, why add that hassle/cost to your educational experience...unless, again, it's that you want to live in Seattle.</p>
<p>UW = the Huskies. In the Pacific 10 Conference country, Wisconsin is known as another overrated Big 10 (football) Rose Bowl representative. Actually, in the 1970s we referred to those midwestern plowhandlers as "The Big Two and the Little Eight." LOL</p>
<p>And the PAC was so good in the 70's. USC and ????.<br>
I think Madison has a much more campus focused life and a better undergrad focus. Too many Udub students are from Seattle and either live at home or stick with their local friends. But I'd have a tough time telling a Washington resident to pay extra to go to the other UW.</p>
<p>Well during the 70s, the Pac-10 sent 4 different schools to the Rose Bowl (USC, UCLA, Stanford & Washington) and the Big 10 sent...2 (Ohio State and Michigan). Oh, and the Pac-10 teams won 9/10.</p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>Thanks for watching my back, jaf1991.</p>
<p>A longer view: the Pac Ten and Big Ten (or their predecessors) have played each other in the Rose Bowl 59 times. The current "score" is Pac Ten 30 -- Big Ten 29. With luck there will be a "real" Rose Bowl again next January (i.e., Pac Ten - Big Ten) so we can even the score. :)</p>
<p>And as you might notice, the entire Pac Ten is west of the Rockies. As I said, east of the Rockies the country knows that "UW" is the great state University of Wisconsin, which ever encourages "that continual and fearless sifting and winnowing by which alone the truth can be found."</p>
<p>Oh, and while we're at it, east of the Rockies, Washington is a school in St. Louis. ;)</p>
<p>All in fun, of course.</p>
<p>Wisconsin is known as "Mad Town" because its one of the most liberal campuses in the nation and they are proud of it. Its a fine school. Its very midwestern in other respects and you being from Minnesota might find that more endearing. UDub in Seattle is the quintessential Pacific Northwestern school and is the flagship school for EVERYTHING north of Stanford. It has some amazing programs in undergraduate studies. Seattle is very....well...its Seattle...eclectic and "moody weather", but never freezing cold like frostbite in Madtown. You either love Seattle, the mountains (to look at and explore, ski etc), the water (to look at, explore, study) or you dont. Its a world class city unto itself and in that regard it has a slight edge over Madtown which is just a college town in the Midwest too far from anything cosmopolitan like Minneapolis or Chicago for a day trip. In my very humble opinion. UDub has its hippies as well. Academically they are very much peer schools. Sports they are very much peer schools. Ditto the frat/sorority scene. Lots of UDub kids do go home on weekends to do laundry...but they often take their out of town friends with them. So that is not a bad thing. Seattlites are friendly people. Great music and nightlife scene, wonderful professional sports as well.</p>
<p>I prefer UDub, but that is my bias. Good luck.</p>
<p>Madison. You pay in-state tuition and don't have to travel. Everything is about the same, if Wisconsin is not better. Mad is short for Madison where you can study Buddhism if you like.</p>
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and is the flagship school for EVERYTHING north of Stanford.
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Berkeley is north of Stanford... ;)</p>
<p>I seriously doubt that Madison is any more liberal than Seattle. :(</p>
<p>LakeWashington, hey, no problem.</p>
<p>MilwDad...I actually had to look up the Rose Bowl stats. Otherwise, I would have had no idea. I'm not much of a college football fan. I know just enough to know that they messed up the Rose Bowl when they joined the championship bowl series or whatever it is and I haven't watched one since. And believe me, we're well aware, out here of just how unaware (I hesitate to say ignorant, all in good fun, of course!) the rest of the country is of us. And that's okay by me!</p>
<p>Jaf:</p>
<p>Actually, Madison goes WAAAY back to the original hippies and some SERIOUS antiwar demonstrations during Vietnam....</p>
<p>Seattle has become a liberal city and changed its "landscape" over the past 30 years or so. It is what it is.</p>
<p>The liberal nature of the current UW-Madison is generally overstated unless you mean being a Democrat is being liberal. Given the behavior of the current Democratic party members wimps in Congress this would be hard to say. The town of Madison is very progressive with lots of generous and big-hearted people. The students tend to be moderate and/or generally apolitical. The student-run campus institutions are controlled by moderate to conservative students.</p>
<p>"Actually, Madison goes WAAAY back to the original hippies and some SERIOUS antiwar demonstrations during Vietnam...."</p>
<p>That's shortchanging our progressive history by at least 70 years. The quote I used above about "sifting and winnowing" is one of the most time honored statements of principle at Wisconsin. It was expressed by the Board of Regents in 1894 as the result of a political attack on Professor Richard T. Ely, one of the nation's preeminent economics scholars at the time, accusing him (essentially) of being a -- gasp -- socialist! (I should mention that not long afterward nearby Milwaukee elected a succession of socialist Mayors whose clean government and progressive policies are still highly regarded to this day.)</p>
<p>The Wisconsin faculty and Regents of the University came to Professor Ely's defense, resulting in their proclamation, which in part says:</p>
<p>"We feel that we would be unworthy of the position we hold if we did not believe in progress in all departments of knowledge. In all lines of academic investigation it is of the utmost importance that the investigator should be absolutely free to follow the indications of truth wherever they may lead. Whatever may be the limitations which trammel inquiry elsewhere we believe the great state University of Wisconsin should ever encourage that continual and fearless sifting and winnowing by which alone the truth can be found."</p>
<p>The last sentence was emblazoned on a plaque erected on Bascom Hall in 1910 that is as famous a landmark as any on campus. </p>
<p>Sifting</a> and Winnowing Plaque - University of Wisconsin-Madison</p>
<p>It should not be too hard to get into Wisconsin if you have a SAT score of 1800-2000. For class of 2012, they drew about 900 students from the waitlist. Obviously, many applied & accepted, but did not show up.</p>