So you are OK with any number of people coming over the border and not being vaccinated. Are you ok with telling them they don’t get treatment at any hospitals because they are not vaccinated. I thought we were trying to end this pandemic.
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You are changing your story. There is no “hypocrisy” within this mandate with regard to those being held at the border, nor are they “excused” by the mandate. It is apples and oranges.
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Such pointed questions serve no purpose other than to spark debate. Best to avoid.
I guess it is interesting that the administration is focusing on workers and vaccines while not actually addressing the immigrants at the southern border. In July of this year border patrol reported 200,000 immigrant contacts. That’s a lot of potentially unvaccinated people in just one month. If Covid is our concern, which it is and should be, perhaps we should focus on those hundreds of thousand of potential spreaders. It’s a valid point and is rather perplexing.
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That doesn’t sound interesting or perplexing.
Tens of millions of unvaccinated adults in the US vs 200k immigrant contacts. It sounds like a way to blame the uncontrolled pandemic in the US on POCs from other countries instead of where it belongs.
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I guess it’s kind of like focusing on getting your current employees vaccinated but letting new hires off the hook. Both sets can spread the virus.
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It’s propaganda used by certain politicians and pundits to simultaneously shift focus away from their failure to help control the pandemic and to further demonize certain kinds of immigrants. They are a tiny part of the COVID problem so focusing on them won’t do much. You want to talk about that tiny part, fine. But let’s save the lion’s share of outrage for the people doing the most damage.
If you are saying we can do both, fine (although your initial comment indicated you wanted to focus on the undocumented immigrants), but the real problem is closer to home.
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Another one, sadly won’t be the last.
@anomander and I posted at the same time
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Where does the blame belong? It originally got here from a foreign country. I’m not smart enough to see where the blame belongs for an invisible virus. I don’t care if you’re from another country or another state or if you are green, yellow purple or polka dot, if you believe getting the vaccine is the answer, then that includes people coming in to our country as well as the unvaccinated already here getting the vaccine. It’s hypocritical to think otherwise.
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Almost of of those encounters result either in Title 42 expulsions and/or Title 8 apprehensions. In other words, they are not being allowed into the country. INS is providing vaccinations to those being held at the border, but again, they are not being allowed into the country.
As for legal immigrants, vaccinations are required.
This is a smokescreen to confuse and distract from the issue. And of course immigrants are further marginalized in the process.
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I really feel that I have better things to do than fight about a popular cable tv deflection of the real issues.
My suggestion. Find something else to do
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Well, if you read my comment, you will see that I don’t think there’s a problem being concerned about both. It’s when people insist on talking about undocumented immigrants INSTEAD of the tens of millions of adults in the country who are unvaccinated.
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Exactly. I have a relative in Florida who told me all about how the border patrol is letting all these unvaccinated “illegals” into the country. That’s not happening, but where do you think he heard about it? From his Governor and certain news outlets.
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and
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At this point, the thread is in slow mode until morning.
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Perhaps the unwanted vaccines in refrigerators and freezers in various parts of the US could be moved to the border regions and entry points (e.g. airports) and offered to everyone crossing the border (whether authorized or not, and whether they are admitted, detained, or deported afterward)?
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That’s actually a good idea. Those vaccines don’t go to waste and more people get vaccinated. Seems like a win-win situation. In the end this is a worldwide problem and thinking we can solve it in this country alone is really naive. We are not an isolated nation.
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I’m very consistent in what I’m saying. I’m talking about unvaccinated Americans AND unvaccinated immigrants. Unvaccinated is unvaccinated!!
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I’m not referring to you, but to those who are trying to elevate concern about undocumented workers in order to shift the blame.
I think hundreds of thousands are still problematic as far as overburdened hospitals, variant transmission and poor messaging is concerned. Unvaccinated is unvaccinated. Everyone counts.
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