It’s sad that it took his dying to maybe convince some of his countrymen of the dangers with Covid vs the vaccine, but if his death can be used to save others, that would at least be something:
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I got my shingles vaccine yesterday! Felt very tired last night but am feeling fine this morning 
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The nurse who administered the vaccine said they were having a vaccine clinic, I was at my primary care physician.
The office was busy for a Friday morning, and the people there were elderly. I was surprised that the people there were elderly but I guess I shouldn’t have been. This office always has had an older and less mobile clientele. I was surprised that there were so many not already vaccinated.
I suspect that now that the physicians office has a supply of vaccine, they are calling their patients to persuade them to come in. Starting with their older patients first.
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This doctor, who let her medical license expire five or six years ago, is a piece of work. I went to her practice when we fist moved to Maine in 1986. When I told my father-in-law, a respected OB/gyn, a couple of things they had done, he told me I should switch practices immediately, so I did. She has gone off the deep end, to say the least. She is credited with being one of the main people spreading the “Plandemic” nonsense. A lot of people are on to her, at least, and seem to be shutting her down. She has a national audience, unfortunately. 
Christiane Northrup
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Yay, so glad you got the shingles vaccine and that you’re feeling OK today. No sore arm??
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@MaineLonghorn - I think my mother had one of her books back in the 80’s…she’s still around??
A sore arm yes, but that is minor. Compared to getting shingles
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I think that they did cut corners. According to the FDA briefing documents for the mrna vaccines, they don’t know if the enhanced immune response issue have been solved with this vaccine. And they skipped the full animal testing and took it directly out to the public. Keep in mind that the available follow-up period is now 4 to 5 months from the second vaccination.
"Vaccine-enhanced disease
Available data do not indicate a risk of vaccine-enhanced disease, and conversely suggest effectiveness against severe disease within the available follow-up period. However, risk of vaccine-enhanced disease over time, potentially associated with waning immunity, remains unknown and needs to be evaluated further in ongoing clinical trials and in observational studies that could be conducted following authorization and/or licensure." (Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting December 10, 2020. FDA Briefing Document Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine. Page 49)
The same statement is on Page 51 of Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee Meeting December 17, 2020, FDA Briefing Document, Moderna COVID-19 Vaccine
You can use the document titles to look into this yourselves. If you haven’t read past studies of mrna vaccine research, you’d probably not know to be concerned about vaccine enhanced disease. If future virus exposures go the same way as many of the test situations, morbidity could run extremely high.
I pray that it doesn’t happen. But I’m not counting on it either. News from Israel, the highest percent vaccinated nation, is not looking great at this point.
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Can you clarify what you mean by this statement? Thank you!
There are some red flags coming from Israel concerning heart inflammation, vaccinated people getting Covid. It’s still too early to tell whether the problems are big or small which is why I wrote “at this point”.
I would love to read more about this. Can you sh are your sources?
What in particular is a “red flag”? Heart issues are a known common effect of COVID-19, so that is nothing new. Breakthrough infections (i.e. vaccinated people getting COVID-19) do occur, since the vaccine effectiveness is not 100%. Breakthrough infections may be more likely with some mutated variants to which the vaccines are less well matched for.
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What I am concerned about is later virus exposures. I have looked for evidence that this issue has been solved since this article (and there are many other experiments like it where cats, mice, and other rodents were tested and died) and have only found the statement in the FDA briefing document that basically says that they aren’t sure if it’s going to be a problem once the vaccine wanes.
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This article is for SARS-CoV-1 and completely different vaccines though. Is there any information about this potential issue related to SARS-CoV-2, and the current vaccines for it?
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Thanks. I was specifically referring to Isreal, but I was able to find my answers. Also, just as a heads up, the source you provided is from 2012.
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I was able to find some information on this, 62 out of over 5 million vaccinated had myocarditis. They are tying to figure out if this is a number greater than that that appears in the general public. Similar to what has happened here with JNJ vaccine. It does not seem like it is of great concern - basically the risk of developing heart problems from Covid is greater than the risk of developing myocarditis from the vaccine. But, still something that needs to watched.
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Thank you for the additional information. This is definitely a concern for me as well because there’s no way they’ve adequately tested whether this is an issue with this vaccine. I also pray it’s not an issue in the future.
This was for the SARS-CoV, not SARS-CoV-2.
Also, the vaccines used were two inactivated whole virus vaccines, a recombinant spike protein vaccine, and a virus-like protein vaccine.
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I believe that it included an mrna type vaccine but it was the S protein type vaccines at issue though. I linked this particular one because it was an easier article to read. There were many mrna SARS type (Covid is a SARS type virus) s protein vaccines tested where severe inflammatory responses were experienced with virus challenges. It’s also known as an ADE response if you want to do more research on your own. This is one of the issues that has held back these types of vaccines over the last several years (or decade).
As I stated in an earlier comment, I tried to find out whether this problem has been solved and have only found that according to the FDA briefing for the mrna vaccines, they don’t know. I will be looking for information on the Johnson & Johnson next and then the novavax which hasn’t been released for use yet.
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That is about 1 out of 80,645 people (over a presumed 5 week period).
The same page says that 3.1 million people per year get myocarditis. This is about 1 on 2,548 people per year. Since a year is 10.4 times the presumed exposure to vaccine 5 week period, calculating the background rate over a 5 week period means that 1 in 26,499 get myocarditis during a 5 week period.
So it looks like the rate that may be associated with the Pfizer vaccine is lower than the background rate, but still potentially significant compared to the background rate. Younger men appear to be the higher risk group.
For comparison, the rate of thrombosis with thrombocytopenia syndrome associated with the J&J vaccine was about 1 in 526,315 overall, 1 in 142,857 (7 in 1 million) for women under age 50 (the highest risk group). Coronavirus (COVID-19) Updates & News | Healthline compares the 7 in a 1 million rate for younger women to 650 hospitalizations and 12 deaths in younger women that 1 million doses of vaccine would prevent.
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Real world challenges, such as among health care workers after vaccination, show that the mRNA vaccines that were available to health care workers greatly reduced the infections of COVID-19 among them: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2101927
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