Valedictorian problems

<p>I'm a freshman right now but I've been having my eyes on valedictorian (no its not too early)
and I have a friend who is in AP Calc (hes also a freshman) and he speaks fluent chinese. He's the only freshman in an AP class and hes super smart... He is passionate about Spanish, and he's in 3-4. I'm also in 3-4, but I'm transferring into 6 next semester. I'm keeping it a secret because I don't want him to do so also... That means that he will have to do Honors 5-6 next year, and then skip 7-8 if he wants to do AP spanish (in my school 3 years of foreign language are required), which means that AP spanish will be harder for him. Is it wrong of me to do so for the sake of valedictorian? He really likes Spanish and I feel bad about it. Oh and so he's also doing 4 APs next year (I am too) out of 6 classes total, but he's going to do AP Chinese outside of school, so his classes will be out of 7... So if I get all A's I'll have a 4.66 and if he gets all A's he'll have a 4.71, and with the fact that my GPA is a 4.0 and his is a 4.25 because of his AP class (PE and elective don't count, so he has 1 ap out of 4)... THere is no way for me to beat him unless he gets B's, which he wont because hes extremely bright. </p>

<p>Basically, is it wrong for me to keep him from exploring his passions because of my selfish desire to be Val?</p>

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<p>Yes, it is.</p>

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<p>No. F*** him. Just do whatever it takes.</p>

<p>As long as you’re in the top 5% (or even the top 15%) of your class, it doesn’t matter whether you’re #1 or #10 or even #25. Being the valedictorian of your grade doesn’t really mean that much to most top colleges out there.</p>

<p>As for your plan … I personally think it sounds a little skeevy - he’s your friend, for god’s sake - but it’s your choice.</p>

<p>Giving up friendship for a bragging title. Think about it.</p>

<p>Well its not like he’s going to hate me… I just would be like “oh you didnt know?”</p>

<p>Honestly… you’re caring too much about a title that after the valediction… has no real importance. If you care to do it, then do so.
Don’t take what we online people say with much weight.</p>

<p>^^Wowwwwwwww. Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww.
Seriously, kid? Think about what’s important in life: the friends you make, or some title no one will care about in five years.</p>

<p>Also, you’re a freshman.</p>

<p>WHO CARES? It’s the difference between #1 and #2 rank?? Don’t SABOTAGE your peers, you dolt! In the long run, the colleges that accept you as a valedictorian would accept you as a salutatorian; you are not risking a college admission offer, but rather a friendship, which, in my opinion, is invaluable.</p>

<p>He’s not sabotaging anyone. He’s taking a class without telling some one else in his grade…ooohhh deceitful… </p>

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<p>Well, tbh - valedictorian, unless they’re “BFFs” and even then…</p>

<p>What does being a valedictorian bring?</p>

<p>^^He’s lying to his friend for the sake of his GPA. It’s sabotaging the openness and honesty that’s so sacred to having friends.</p>

<p>Honestly OP, you sound like the biggest tool ever.</p>

<p>@Jersey13: qft</p>

<p>Being valedictorian is pretty big for college… idk why posters are saying otherwise.</p>

<p>Wow OP…seriously? You call him your friend and you’re willing to lie to get ahead of him in a competition for a meaningless title?</p>

<p>haha. At least you’re not like this one friend of mine. Her school does ranking really weird. So she has like a 3.98, because she got an A- in one class freshman year. She’s taken tons of APs/Honors classes and everything, however, she’s not ranked near the top at all, because they do it based on unweighted GPA and then sort it by weighted.</p>

<p>So basically, they go through all the 4.0 unweighted kids. Rank them based on their weighted GPA’s. Then go to the 3.9 unweighted kids. Rank them based on their weighted GPA’s. Etc. So basically there’s a whole lot of people ranked higher than her who only took standard courses and got straight A’s. =/</p>

<p>But you’re only a freshman! So much can change between now and then. The world’s not even gonna exist then. I mean, the world’s gonna end in 2012. You don’t even graduate until 2014!</p>

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<p>Not really.</p>

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Haha agreed :slight_smile: although you know, I probably shouldn’t say that considering I agreed with the OP…
Congrats on being accepted to Yale btw Jersey13</p>

<p>Valedictorian IS a big deal, IMO.
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<p>Go find a girl, go drink a beer, go play a sport, find a friend, play some CoD…do SOMETHING, because you have WAYYYYYY too much free time.</p>