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<p>@17Angel Thank you so much for your awesome response! I am definitely feeling a lot better since the beginning of the thread.</p>

<p>Your response is so thoughtful :slight_smile: I’m so excited for where this journey will reach me, but you’re right; it’s about the journey, not the destination. I’m hoping to have a great journey, working as hard as I can while also enjoying life. That must be pretty nice not having to worry about the whole valedictorian situation, and being able to all be friends and discuss classes. And right, there’s always that one person. For me, the one person is this guy. Idk what the deal is with him; no one in our school likes him at all because like yours, he makes stuff up a lot, and he treats other inconsiderately, especially the females. He also isn’t very humble; he has no trouble putting others down if they’re not as good as him in a certain category of expertise. I’ve experienced him first hand and I can definitely say he wasn’t the best person to be around and he caused A LOT of drama, i’m surprised he even had time for anything else. </p>

<p>I’m pretty glad I ended it as well. It was a brave thing to do, and you’re right, it was difficult, but you’re also right in saying I don’t have to think about him or his antics any longer. I don’t even know if it was a friendship hahaha it was so twisted and messed up, I can’t even </p>

<p>It’s hard to say what his motive was exactly. I just thought it was odd because he would coincidentally ask for homework after he would say some nonsense “romantic” thing, which I always thought was so out-of-place. It was almost like an obvious way to do it or he’s just not good at being subtle about things. And ahh you’re right, I didn’t give the whole information but I’m sure if I did, you would agree it was a little sabotage-like. I’m not in his head, though, and I don’t think any of us would want to be… :-/ </p>

<p>I feel like I saved myself for sure! I can now focus on bigger and better things like the nice people in my life I am blessed with :slight_smile: </p>

<p>I love your last sentence. “working hard and doing what you think is greatness instead of everything that is needed…” That is so perfect. I am so happy to have yours and many other’s supports. Thank you for being so thoughtful in your response. :slight_smile: </p>

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<p>I NEED MAJOR HELP. If any of you see this, PLEASE message me. It’s about valedictorian and my situation… please help!!! please!!! </p>

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<p>@‌ Sally</p>

<p>It’s great to hear that you’re feeling better (as of the post before) about school, valedictorian, etc. From personal experience (currently, I’m at 4.0/4.87, apparently on track to be valedictorian but I don’t have a clue about what’s going on), I would just like to point out that aside from grades, there are a lot of cool academic competitions, activities, etc. that you could and should definitely try out. Personally, I find the things I do outside of school much more gratifying than the things I do in school. You can get many more awards out of them, and if you can make something like IMO or the likes, you’ll be remembered far more clearly and really leave a legacy behind. (I’m not saying that valedictorian isn’t important, but there are lots of other cool academic stuff you could try, with, from my experience, far more awards to reap)</p>

<p>About your current situation (from your other post), I’m not sure if I could give any helpful advice since I ended up in my position by luck (just picked some random courses that I liked, and the scheduling worked out for me really well). I’ve read about cases where the race for valedictorian has resulted in lawsuits, firings, and in general a lot of unhappy business (there was this one article we read in AP Lang - can’t seem to find it), and it seems like a similar case here (really hope nothing like that happens). You could possibly persuade the school to have two valedictorians instead of just one (happened in one case), which would seem to be a decent compromise.</p>

<p>I would say that people who cheat should get caught :slight_smile: If the other person is really cheating, then well shame on him. Personally, I’ve never cheated (or if I did unintentionally and insignificantly), and I feel like, especially if the race is competitive, that no cheating should occur. Do note, however, that the other person is probably under the same stress as you are (if his brother was valedictorian with the highest GPA ever, he has probably been pressured a lot to live up to his brother’s name, whether he likes it or not).</p>

<p>Anyways, what kind of courses are you taking now, and what about the other person? Honestly, I would really suggest trying out some competitions (mainly because they’ve worked for me really well) - they’re usually more challenging and much more fun than school, and you can win free camps and trips all over the world (from just using your brain). But above all, try to take courses that you enjoy and that you’d have fun in. </p>

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<p>@kirito69‌ hey :slight_smile: thanks for the advice !! </p>

<p>I went to my guidance counselor today and felt so much better. She said that I have a 100% clear shot and I am very close to the number one position. I’m not going to give up! :slight_smile: Valedictorian is something I want very dearly. I’ve sacrificed a lot for it. With faith in myself, God, and everything I do, I’m gonna trudge on :slight_smile: </p>

<p>Congratulations on your position, though! </p>

<p>No… this won’t reach a lawsuit. Our school got a new principal this year so this boy’s shenanigans have been clear-cut over and he’s finding it harder to jump fences and obstacles to get ahead unfairly, and cheating has become harder for him. </p>

<p>Things are easing out. I’m going to do the most and best I can, and believe that those who cheat are caught in the end. It’s literally in every fable we’ve ever read.</p>

<p>Because of the fact that the school has recognized this cheating issue, the situation is under control and now lawsuit or huge drama will happen, which makes me so happy :slight_smile: </p>

<p>It’s funny because… valedictorian is about GPA and studying and working hard, but because of this one person in my class, it was turning into something dirty. But I want to make it clean… </p>

<p>the honest ones always come out on top… that’s how the world works… I believe very strongly…</p>

<p>I hope you believe in me too :))) </p>

<p>and yeah! I’m doing science bowl, brain bowl, Mu Alpha theta competitions, and the math competitions at our county level. Competition season is starting :)) I also do lots of poetry competitions and this summer I will be volunteering at the hospital. :slight_smile: </p>

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<p>I just felt better today because I realized I shouldn’t become intimidated or psyched out by the things this guy says. he tends to walk around bragging about how he’s taking 34 classes (I almost had a heart attack… how is that even possible…) My counselor said it’s a lie and he’s trying to bluff people into giving up their dream of valedictorian because his grades are dropping and he needs to get rid of competition.</p>

<p>Isn’t that so dirty?!? If everyone leaves, I’ll stay. I’m not giving up!!! I strongly believe things will work out.</p>

<p>@kirito69‌ Can you private message me please? I’d like to share the whole story and also discuss my schedule/class rank with you :))) If you want… I’d much enjoy to be able to converse with somebody about it. </p>

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<p>especially since you have knowledge and experience @kirito69‌ </p>

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<p>lol I haven’t figured out how to pm people - but sure (though idt i’ll be of much help)</p>

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<p>ahaha it’s okay i just want to be able to share it with someone and get feedback… :slight_smile: i’ll message you tomorrow</p>

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<p>Wait. You were talking about how you don’t care about it, but now, you’re back at it. I mean, I wish you luck and all, but I really dont see a purpose for valedictorian.
You should be doing what youre doing for self satisfaction, not to get fame among others.
I dont have a health problem, but I was an in your situation. I am rank 4/550 with straight As, and the others higher than me took more classes than was allowed, but the thing is, I didn’t even know my rank until junior year, and I didnt even care. Like at all. Because I was doing my best in school, and I really dont care what others do or get. I do stuff for myself.
Youre just obsessed with something incredibly trivial. Its actually scaring me. It sounds like this is enveloping your life and that definitely is not healthy. I know youre trying to be competitive in something youre good at, but honestly, just drop it. Youll get it if it is meant to be. If not, oh well.
Im actually incredibly creeped out by this whole obsession with the gpa, and the guy hitting on you. Its like a horror story.</p>

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<p>Reading threads like these make me glad that my school does not have valedictorians. But if that’s what motivates you Sally, who am I to say anything?</p>

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<p>@skieurope‌ Haha thanks :slight_smile: It’s what motivates me. It’s fun to work for valedictorian; I don’t do sports or extracurriculars to the extreme due to health and personal reasons, so it’s enjoyable to me to able to study hard and get good grades and get closer to my goal.</p>

<p>@IAmTheGOAT‌ It’s okay. I don’t expect any of you to automatically understand. I’m not over-obsessed and I’m also not doing it for other people. I am doing it as a personal goal of mine. I just really see a personal purpose for valedictorian. It will be good for me in many ways. Not all of us care about valedictorian; I just really do :slight_smile:
Congratulations on your rank by the way. That is really, really an excellent rank. “You’ll get it if it’s meant to me” <— I really like that, though! I’m not going to stop working hard and trying and being the best I can be, but I love that quote because it’s very true and relevant!! If it’s not meant to be, it won’t happen. If it’s meant to be, it will happen. Can’t wait for the day I can tell you all how it worked out (: </p>

<p>By the way… yeah… it is EXTREMELY creepy. Like this could be such a relax and peaceful ranking situation, but yes, the guy hitting on me and his obsession is like a horror story. TRUE THAT</p>

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<p>@SallyStephens‌ you. are. obsessed. but wait… hear me out.
one. it is unfair that they are letting the guy take classes that others can’t because of your age, but i am pretty sure it has nothing to do with his brother. go ahead and try to set things straight. that part of the story is unfair.
three. be valedictorian, because you wanna feel proud of yourself, not because you wanna beat some kid.
four. imagine what it must be like for him to live in his brothers shadow and have to live up to expectations. have you ever even spoken to him about why he is taking those classes that nobody else can? </p>

<p>edit: i just read the essay you posted above. i do have to say my questions were answered before i asked them. i saw what i wanted to see. and everything was okay until you mentioned your disease. you are not the only one with a disease whose future’s stunted. i may not have a physical disease (and I’m not going to mention mental ones because its a sore spot) so i cant relate. i admire that you wanna achieve this, but don’t hold on so tight and depend everything you have on this. imagine if you didn’t get this and then fell into a major depression because of it. i think most of us don’t mean don’t fight for it, just don’t make it as if your entire life depends on it.</p>

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<p>@silvermightedm‌
I see what you mean :slight_smile: You’ve worded it nicely haha. Thank you, though… i’m working for part one, it’s actually going well and they may let me take classes this summer… </p>

<p>i enjoy number three, I will definitely take it to heart. But I do have to say, as much as it seems on this thread, I’m doing valedictorian mostly for myself. the only part that makes me mad is the unfair portion… which is working out. </p>

<p>i wish he was a kinder spirited person so I could be more sympathetic towards him. he’s one of the cruelest people in our school. but i do feel for him… </p>

<p>i’ll do my best to fight for it and not depend my life on it</p>

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<p>@SallyStephens I know you will do well. Smart people grow from learning of books and applying it to the world! Good Luck! :)</p>

<p>edit: i just realized i skipped number two. i didn’t forget how to count, it ran away i swears.</p>

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@SallyStephens So how did everything end out?

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She hasn’t been on CC in months. Don’t bump old threads. Can someone close this?