Vanderbilt vs. WashU

<p>Just back from college road trip with jr D and visited both Vanderbilt and Wash U…back to back. She liked both schools and will probably apply to both. Had a great interview at Wash U…liked the friendly, down to earth people there but thought it felt more like a scripted sales pitch than anywhere else. Really emphasized research and did not mention community service. Sat in on a very large chem class that did not impress her and she did not like the area nearly as well as Nashville. It was a beautiful day and the campus, dorms etc were all very nice. Seemed very pre-professional to her which could be a plus or minus.</p>

<p>Vanderbilt was beautiful, as expected. Said they tenure profs first for teaching, then research. Big community service push and talked about fit from both sides…said they turn away many high stats kids that have very little else going for them. Parents in the crowd were very well decked out but the kids seemed more relaxed. Guide was a sorority girl…not a lot of Greek clothing on the students or dressed up ‘preppy’ types. Tons of folks touring at both places.</p>

<p>D prefered Vanderbilt and she is not preppy and is very concerned about diversity/mixing, (less of that at Vanderbilt, no doubt) both racial and socioeconomic. If offered a substantially better deal from Wash U, I’m sure she would attend there and be very happy to have the opportunity. Things have a way of working out for the best. Good luck with your decision!</p>

<p>Thank you critter. Ah, I wish I could visit Vandy for myself!</p>

<p>Go to Vandy. You can’t go wrong with such good aid from there.</p>

<p>Bump, I’m just looking for a bit more input since I can’t make a decision lol.</p>

<p>Hey, alright I promised I’d come back and tell you what I thought, so here it goes:</p>

<p>First, to give you some perspective:
I’m a guy from Chicago, Illinois (or a suburb thereof) and was (I love using the past tense when referring to college decisions) deciding between Vanderbilt and WashU. I’m in the school of engineering at both universities and will probably be majoring in something like Computer Science and then doing pre-law (which may include a couple other majors/minors). You probably don’t need any test stats or whatever, but let me know if you want them.</p>

<p>I could go through and detail what makes each school spectacular, but you already know those; you want to know what makes them different, I’d suppose.
First of all, the campus. WashU’s campus is methodical and well organized. There isn’t much in terms of arbor aside from a couple seemingly designated areas. The buildings are beautiful, though. As for me, though, Vandy was the clear winner in this regard. The paths of Vandy wind through ancient trees and seem to just happen upon classrooms. The campus is a state arboretum which may give you some idea. The campus is far more scenic and has many quads you can hang out on, which I can’t really envision happening as much on WashU’s campus.
Secondly, is the Co-Op program (or lack thereof). WashU has a co-op program in which a student will go and work full time for a company for 8 or 9 months (I’m summarizing from what I remember from a week ago, so don’t hate if I’m wrong…). The program provides an in depth idea of what the job and life would be like with that as a career which can help you to determine what you do, as well as don’t, like. On the other hand, Vandy does not offer a co-op program, but instead stresses internships (which WashU offers too by the way). At first I was skeptical of this, but their philosophy is that in college it is best to get the “breadth” of life and education rather than the “depth” in a particular subject which a co-op would lend itself to. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that Vandy classes are general glazes of the actual subject, I’m just saying that they encourage or even expect you to reach out beyond your own major or narrow interests. I agree that this one is entirely a matter of personal opinion, but I agreed more with Vanderbilt on this one and I probably wouldn’t have done a co-op anyways at WashU, so not a big deal.
Third, (Don’t worry, there’s only four that I can currently think of so I’m almost done ranting) is the flexibility the campus offers in terms of choosing your majors, double majoring, and interdisciplinary classes. I don’t think it’s possible to sit through a WashU information session without hearing the word “flexibility” thrown at you at least ten different times, and this is not without good reason. WashU encourages people to major or minor in anything that interests them, no matter the seeming difference between the two. They stressed how it was possible to major in things of seemingly arbitrary relation (I’d give an example here, but I’d probably be proven wrong that they are very related by somebody else). On the other hand, Vandy seemed a bit more strict in these terms and the first teacher I talked to seemed very hesitant in saying that I’d be able to double major, but it seemed to be because he wanted it known that it is not just a “credential” which you cannot obtain like any old merit badge (To which I took offense, as an Eagle scout and somebody who worked damn hard on some of those merit badges!). The student needs an invested interest in order to pull off a double major. However, there was another teacher who thought it was a great idea to major in anything that interested you, and said he vehemently encouraged it. Yet, in the end I think that WashU’s repetitious tactics worked off as I felt it was more open to flexibility, even though Vandy didn’t seem entirely opposed to it.
Finally, the people on the campus. WashU means business. Vandy means business. At neither of these schools will you find people who coast by and don’t do any work (at least not successfully). WashU classes were intense as well as the people in them with the same for Vandy. However, while I realize there is a very good chance this is just particular to the group of people I stayed with at each school, I felt as if Vandy’s students were more alive. Not only enjoying parties on frat row (which looks amazing to walk through on a weekend afternoon) but also they seemed pretty chill with each other and able and willing to go out and just have a good time, something I didn’t see to the same extent at WashU.</p>

<p>So, to end my spiel, I’ll leave you with my overall decision. As you may have guessed from reading my interpretation of my visits, I will be attending Vanderbilt next Fall. Once I saw the campus and the community which exists upon it, I couldn’t NOT imagine myself as a student there. Well, there is what I’ve gleaned from my trips in the past week and a half. Let me know what you think, and pm me if you have any more questions or post them here.</p>

<p>Thank you Enigma, again.</p>

<p>Enigma, for what it’s worth, I can tell you that it is most definitely possible to double, or in some cases, triple major at Vanderbilt’s engineering school. </p>

<p>In fact, many of the students in your own prospective major are double majors.</p>

<p>Most of the professors and administrators at VUSE consider that flexibility to be a selling point of their program. The ability to do so without jeopardizing success in engineering courses depends on the preparation of the student going into the program, as well as willingness and ability to take very full course loads. It may be that they don’t want to falsely encourage all students to think it is wise to overload.</p>

<p>Good decision, BTW. Congratulations.</p>

<p>Enigma, in 2008 my son made the same decision you just did - Vandy over Wash U. I think the vibrancy you’ve described was a significant part of the decision. You will love the friendliness, the traditions and, yes, the frat row on weekends.</p>

<p>midmo, Yeah I heard a couple examples of double or triple majoring and it was just the overall feel of how much the availability of those options were stressed in the campuses. Obviously, since I want to double major, I still think that Vandy has good options for that too. And thank you for the congratulations!</p>

<p>Would you guys say that University of Chicago tops both of these?</p>

<p>yes why wasnt this mentioned how much costwise?</p>

<p>UChic is a little more expensive for me than WashU. Vandy is cheapest. </p>

<p>But thank you guys for all the help.</p>