Vandy ROTC and NROTC

<p>i ask since i'm hispanic and i'm hoping that won't be detrimental in any way.</p>

<p>i'm only gonna be a sophmore this year, but as far as freshman year goes.... haha yeah my GPA wasn't too hot. i had about a 3.5 uw, but i took pre-IB/AP govt, IB pre calc, pre-IB english + bio + french, p.e. & comp. apps. and they're all pretty challenging classes [ minus the last two, but they were required] and the most challenging i could take for my year, so hopefully that'll be recognized.
i haven't taken the SAT / ACT / SATIIs yet , haven't gotten my score back for AP govt... </p>

<p>any advice / suggestions academic wise?</p>

<p>I don't know about Vandy at all, but if you keep above a 3.5 with all the classes you are taking and get no less than 26/27 on the ACT(I don't know anything about the SAT so yeah. Us west-coastians take the ACT) you should be totally fine. Play a sport or two though. It helps.</p>

<p>oh, i guess i should've put down some ecs.... </p>

<p>yeah, my sports are cross country, indoor and outdoor track, most likely for all four years [unless i drop either indoor or outdoor occasionally in order to get a job]. i'm involved with a christian sports group, various other clubs at school.... plus i'm planning on joining the school newspaper and fine arts magazine this year, and hopefully doing that for my remaining 3 years.
i've got a bunch of community service experience, piano for 10+ years, will be tutoring, etc.
so yeah, i'm sure that'll all help me somehow....</p>

<p>Yeah. I would say you got it in the bag.</p>

<p>Fantastic. I'll just cross my fingers for now and study my butt off so Vanderbilt will think i'm good enough....</p>

<p>Are either of your parents / any members of your family in the military, utah?</p>

<p>I have 2 active duty brothers, but they are both enlisted sailors. They are deep sea divers, which is rad. They want me to be a diver, but I kind of want to be a pilot. We will see what happens in the next couple years. haha</p>

<p>yeah, my dad was in the army for a long time but he retired. </p>

<p>where did your bros go?</p>

<p>What do you mean? Enlisted sailors are not required to go to college. Not a lot of them do...</p>

<p>Oh, no, not college-wise, like.... location wise? Where are they?</p>

<p>Oh ha ha. San Diego and Guam. Hey wizpatch. You still out there? Do NROTC people at Vandy get anything extra from the school? I know that some schools offer room and board waivers for NROTC members and some don't. Does Vandy do anything like that?</p>

<p>Utah, I know a few NCOs with bachelors or even masters degrees.</p>

<p>Raimius-
I know, I know some as well. All I was saying is it isn't the norm for all enlisted sailors to graduate from college compared to a requirement for officers. No disrespect was intended.</p>

<p>wizpatch, come back! your bucketloads of information are greatly missed.</p>

<p>so i know you have to take some sort of physical test for NROTC. when does this occur? what sort of exercises are involved?</p>

<p>True, Utah, point well-made.</p>

<p>Check out this enlisted sailor and how far he's gone.</p>

<p><a href="http://www.navy.mil/navydata/leadership/ldrDisplay.asp?m=346%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.navy.mil/navydata/leadership/ldrDisplay.asp?m=346&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>Vanderbilt gives $3000 each year to every rotc or nrotc scholarship student is put towards room and board which is about a third of the total costs.</p>

<p>Twice a semester, NROTC mids complete a PFA (Physical Fitness Assessment i think). The first one each semester is a practce test that gauges your fitness and if you fail you are put on FEPS which is a fitness enhancement program that meets twice a week to make people stronger and faster. The second test each semester counts on your record and you want (and need) to pass it. The scores to pass differ for your age and your gender but the test consists of a sit and reach (you can either touch your toes or not), 2 minutes of max pushups, two minutes of max situps, and a 1.5 mile run. The marines have the PRT or PFT whatever its called, which is a three mile run, two minutes of crunche, and pullups. You can take a swim instead of the run for the PFA that counts but must pass a PFA running before youre commisioned. Basically you must pass the PFA at the end of the freshman year to hold onto your scholarship (the marks are not too difficult if you put much effort into training).</p>

<p>So you can swim instead of run? How far is the swim?</p>

<p>Yeah you can swim for the real one each semester and I believe its 500 yards (or 450 meters) with its own time requirments. You will do this test twice a year for your entire navy career so may as well get used to it in rotc i guess. Just remember to keep working on your run because you need to be able to run in the practice test (the beginning of each semester).</p>

<p>Sounds doable, i think...</p>

<p>When you say Vandy gives $3,000 for room and board.... does that mean.... ok trying to phrase this. So Navy pays for a majority of your tuition, and that leaves you with maybe like $5,000 [guesstimating here] in personal expenses, transportation, books, room and board that you have to pay.... but Vanderbilt gives an additional 3,000 to ROTC kids in general?</p>

<p>Haha my bad let me try my best to explain this. Vandy is supposed to cost the average student $49,000 next year (including transportation, books, personal spending, etc, its what they guess it will cost someone to go there). The Navy is paying our tuition, our student activities fee ($900), books ($450 a semester), and a stipend. This comes to about $39,000 in what the navy pays for. Vanderbilt then gives the scholarship students $3000 off of the housing fee of around $8000. So long story short, a scholraship will value around $41,000 of the $49,000 they expect a normal year to cost. You will likely owe vanderbilt around $4000 a year for housing and any other costs will be personal. Lot of numbers there but hopefully the make sense. Your stipend will cover many personal expenses (it goes a long way if you use your meal plan well which is required for all freshmen).</p>