<p>djoe is from columbia, im her sis in kappa kappa</p>
<p>South Carolina?</p>
<p>i'm biracial (asian/black) and I'm interested in Vandy. i'm from south carolina, so I know that a lot of southern schools are dominated by greek life, which i am fine with. i actually plan on rushing when i go to college next year, but I don't want to go to a school that is tense and segregated (whether it's self segregation or not).</p>
<p>1) i think you got a biased opinion by posting on the vandy thread....obviously the people here have a strong intrest in vandy</p>
<p>2) somone did make a good point earlier, join the religious organization. I know the MSA there hosts a few events, open to everyone in the Vandy community(so you do not have to join MSA to go to them) . There events are not wild and there def. wont be n e drinking</p>
<p>I guess different strokes for different folks, but Vanderbilt is head and shoulders above Emory IMO. The academics are on par, and every other aspect of Vandy seems superior to Emory's: social life, campus, sports, school spirit, location, safety, the students themselves, everything.</p>
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<li><p>so tech has a good reputation and is fun if you're a nerd (i am and went there last year). i got a 3.6 and this year at vanderbilt i have a 1.7. that's right. </p></li>
<li><p>uc san francisco compares to vanderbilt? omg.</p></li>
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<p>djoe1 -- some stats from PrincetonReview. </p>
<p>Those going to med school upon grad: at Vandy: 4%, Emory 13%.
Those going to grad school upon grad: at Vandy: 32%, Emory 42%.
Selectivity rating: both are 98
Admissions/students in top 10%: Vandy 79%, Emory 85%
Quality of life: Vandy 88, Emory 87
Number of asians: Vandy 6%, Emory 18%</p>
<p>quareidfaciam,</p>
<p>In no way do I intend any negative comment about Emory, but I think your numbers are less meaningful once one takes note that Emory has neither a School of Education nor a School of Engineering. Perhaps the percentage of students going to Medical School from Vanderbilt should be calculated using Arts and Sciences graduates. (I do realize there are a few--very few--students who apply to med. school after graduating from Peabody and VUSE.)</p>
<p>On the other hand, once one starts making these adjustments, the stories get very complicated. I think it is better to compare schools by estimating one's personal chances, based on one's personal record and goals. Also, take a look at how campus life suits you.</p>
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- uc san francisco compares to vanderbilt? omg.
The original poster was referring to UCSF's medical school, which is one of the nation's top medical schools and compares quite favorably to Vanderbilt's med school.</p>
<p>okay...sorry</p>
<p>Midmo -- I noted the med school numbers since the original post asked about premed preparation, for what it's worth. I do think the difference in numbers attending grad school immediately after graduation are interesting. (For what it's worth, Yale's percent attending grad school is around 25%.) Emory and Vanderbilt are quite different schools from their populations to their cultures.</p>
<p>quareidfaciam, I have no argument that, on average, the undergraduate populations and/or cultures are different when one compares Emory and Vanderbilt. As with most schools, however, there is a good deal of variation within the average. No doubt my son would look like a better fit at Emory than Vanderbilt, but nonetheless he is very happy at Vanderbilt, for a variety of reasons. </p>
<p>I tend to look at graduate school matriculation immediately upon graduation in much the same way as I look at medical school matriculation rates: engineering is largely a terminal degree, although more and more do eventually get master's degrees, and education undergraduates do not generally go on for doctorates, or even master's degrees, until after working for a while. So, as with medical school admission rates, I would put more emphasis on the results of the A & S graduates, not the university as a whole.</p>
<p>If I were a student comparing Emory and Vanderbilt with respect to the question of medical school admission rates, I would be getting in touch with the undergraduate program directors of those departments in which I was considering majoring and asking for some numbers. It wouldn't matter too much to me what the Peabody or Blair or VUSE majors were doing after graduation.</p>
<p>Thanks everyone for commenting and giving advice. I just wanted to let any students thinking about coming here a clear view about some negative aspects of Vanderbilt and perhaps the college life in general. I came in completely optimistic and unaware, and practically ran into a brick wall. I'm not exactly sure who RoCCoLampone is b/c I'm not even in a sorority. And I'm actually from Atlanta. Even though it's a lot more southern than Nashville, I feel like I have gone farther south. Atlanta is fairly diverse and it was very different to go somewhere so close, but yet so completely different. </p>
<p>An update on medical schools: I know several seniors who applied to medical schools this year, all of them with very significant GPAs in the 3.8-9. One got accepted to Columbia, 3 did not get into any that they liked (Memphis, etc), and 1 didn't get accepted to any at all. It was very shocking to hear that even though they were so intent on going, few of them are satisfied. I don't know if good medical schools are just insanely difficult to get into, or it has something to do with their MCAT scores or extracurriculars, or the Vanderbilt reputation, but I just wanted to throw that out there.</p>
<p>I honestly thought about transferring, but I feel like it's something that I am going to have to learn to live with in the real world anyways (and a 2.7 isn't good enough to get into any colleges I want to transfer to anyways. haha). I was completely positive I wanted to go into medical school before, and as a result, took more than the suggested number of math and science courses required. Now I have 2 weedout classes and 3 labs that I took for no reason (after counting another 3 wedouts and 1 lab that count for AXLE liberal arts requirements). Right now I am thinking about getting an MPH after undergrad b/c I really am interested in going into the medical field. I guess it wasn't really meant for me to go to medical school and I have accepted that. </p>
<p>Good luck to anyone still deciding on what colleges to go to!</p>
<p>In all seriousness, I would still apply to other universities and explain your situation at Vanderbilt. If the climate at Vandy isn't conducive to your academic success, apply somewhere that you believe will foster that and explain in your essay why you passionatly feel that you will do better there--along with why you want to do what you want to do in life--everything isn't based on numbers (thank god).</p>
<p>djoe1, have you thought about UGA? Transferring might be the best solution for you. Life is very short -- don't stay where you are unhappy. (Even Athens is a bit more cosmopolitan than Nashville, but remember, pre-med is challenging anywhere.)</p>
<p>uhh...Athens is more cosmopolitan than Nashville????? Have you ever lived/worked in Nashville? It is a major third coast city with gobs of colleges and major sports and cultural institutions and a very hot economy.</p>
<p>Athens is a perfectly uniquely friendly wonderful vibrant college town...</p>
<p>but I agree life is short. And organic chem and MCATs are tough no matter where you park for four years.</p>
<p>A 3.9 from Vandy yielded nada for medical school admissions? What was the MCAT? Is Vandy that looked down upon?</p>
<p>I'm pretty sure a high MCAT score and a 3.9 will get you into a top med school no matter WHAT college you come from.</p>
<p>I bet their MCAT scores were subpar.</p>
<p>That's hilarious -- Nashville as a major east coast city. I'm in Nashville several times a year for long periods and have lived up and down the US east coast (several hundred miles east of Nashville) as well as in major European cities. I enjoy Nashville -- it's lots of fun, but cosmopolitan, it is not.</p>
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<p>how is vandy's campus superior. Emory has put a lot money into its campus, since its endowment is so much bigger.
how is location better? Atlanta vs Nashville? I understand Vandy is downtown, but I believe it is inaccurate to bluntly say Vandy's location is better</p>
<p>safety. Atlanta may have more crime, but Emory is in a very good part and crime is not an issue.</p>
<p>the students themselves? you can't say Vandy-type students are better. They're just different. Emory-type students are probably on average smarter and more intellectual.</p>
<p>"everything..." right...</p>
<p>all of this just goes to show how much blind pride is on this forum and warns about the dangers of posting this type of thread only on the vandy forum and not on the emory forum as well</p>
<p>Vanderbilt wins the cross-admit battles (meaning -- people who have the choice between both schools go with Vanderbilt). If you look at Revealed Preference Data, I think you will be surprised how poorly Emory performs. This is probably the greatest flaw of the school -- the vast majority of the students did not want to attend the school as their first choice. The school has a very poor yield rate (the second worst out of USNEWS Top 25 Colleges -- only CMU is worse).</p>
<p>Campus Life is far superior at Vanderbilt. Emory competes in the AAU -- a terrible D-III conference. I'm concinved my HS team draws larger crowds and would be able to defeat Emory. I'm pretty sure the school doesn't even sponser a football team -- the school could care less about fostering school spirit. So while Vanderbilt students are enjoying SEC tailgating, getting excited about March Madness, and relax on a sunny day to watch a top 10 nationally ranked baseball team, Emory students will have to watch D-1 sports on TV. </p>
<p>Vanderbilt draws the stronger applicants. Emory is well-known for manipulating student data by sticking all of their lesser students in "Oxford College at Emory". They take all of their low-scoring students and grant them admissions in the Oxford program and then let them all transfer after two years. </p>
<p>Campus and Students are largely about preference. But if you go to Emory, you need a car. At Vanderbilt, everything is within walking distance. If you want to see a play at the theatre, see a movie at Sarratt, go see a football game, or just play some intramural soccer at the Rec. Its very convienant. Many of the great restraurants and hangouts are very close to campus as well (Cabana, Sams, Sportsmans, etc.)</p>