<p>I know I'm invoking a torrent of hellfire and brimstone with this thread, but I really need help because I can't decide. I live in West TN and I know a lot about Vandy, but I'm not too knowledgeable about Emory. I want to major in Business/Engineering (I want to go into IB (I know its hard)). So, what are my chances of achieving that at either school? And overall, which would be a better school in terms of the "experience"? Also, socially, I need some occasional sanity, from what I can see, both schools can be pretty heavily party-oriented, so am I just doomed? Also, I heard from a friend that the chicks at Emory were incredibly hot, but the ratings, alas, seem to say otherwise, so whom should I believe? Coz I know the chicks at Vandy are super-hot! (It won't really affect my decision, but I'm still curious :p)</p>
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I heard from a friend that the chicks at Emory were incredibly hot
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<p>LOL, What sort of weird flame is this. Have you ever heard of "Emory Goggles"? The girls are not attractive at all. </p>
<p>Urban</a> Dictionary: Emory Goggles</p>
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both schools can be pretty heavily party-oriented
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<p>Again, I can't tell if this is flame. But Emory parties are generally pretty lame.</p>
<p>YouTube</a> - Fun at Emory</p>
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which would be a better school in terms of the "experience"?
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<p>There are lots of threads about Emory v. Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>Basically,</p>
<p>Vanderbilt wins the cross-admit battles (meaning -- people who have the choice between both schools go with Vanderbilt). If you look at Revealed Preference Data, I think you will be surprised how poorly Emory performs. This is probably the greatest flaw of the school -- the vast majority of the students did not want to attend the school as their first choice. The school has a very poor yield rate (the second worst out of USNEWS Top 25 Colleges -- only CMU is worse).</p>
<p>Campus Life is far superior at Vanderbilt. Emory competes in the AAU -- a terrible D-III conference. I'm concinved my HS team draws larger crowds and would be able to defeat Emory. I'm pretty sure the school doesn't even sponser a football team -- the school could care less about fostering school spirit. So while Vanderbilt students are enjoying SEC tailgating, getting excited about March Madness, and relax on a sunny day to watch a top 10 nationally ranked baseball team, Emory students will have to watch D-1 sports on TV.</p>
<p>Vanderbilt draws the stronger applicants. Emory is well-known for manipulating student data by sticking all of their lesser students in "Oxford College at Emory". They take all of their low-scoring students and grant them admissions in the Oxford program and then let them all transfer after two years.</p>
<p>Campus and Students are largely about preference. But if you go to Emory, you need a car. At Vanderbilt, everything is within walking distance. If you want to see a play at the theatre, see a movie at Sarratt, go see a football game, or just play some intramural soccer at the Rec. Its very convienant. Many of the great restraurants and hangouts are very close to campus as well (Cabana, Sams, Sportsmans, etc.)</p>
<p>lmao - that video made my day</p>
<p>BUT emory is ranked one higher than Vandy, and it's harder to get into = more prestigious</p>
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BUT emory is ranked one higher than Vandy, and it's harder to get into = more prestigious
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<p>Wrong! Emory is not harder to get into. You are forgetting that Emory continually has problems with their yield. To combat this Emory Admissions "tracks interests" -- meaning if you show you are interested in attending Emory they will look at your application more favorably. Vanderbilt doesn't have this problem and doesn't track interest.</p>
<p>Also, check out the College Board Data. Look at how low the Oxford scores bring down Emory's overall stats. No wonder they hide these kids (shhh....don't tell US News). Oxford students are allowed to AUTOMATICALLY transfer into Emory after two years.</p>
<p>Finally, I think Revealed Preference is far more telling than US News Rankings (which fluctuate from year-to-year). When people get accepted to both schools, more students chose Vanderbilt. Lets face it -- very few students grow up as a child wanting to go to Emory.</p>
<p>lol but something that Emory has that Vandy does not is diversity - for all that I've heard, Vandy is pretty darn segregated, if bordering racist.</p>
<p>my comment above is not meant to offend, it's just what I've heard from people.</p>
<p>also, could you explain the interest thing at Emory? I don't really understand it...if you just have interest, they will like you?? Is that some kind of policy?</p>
<p>Bubbly,
I don't doubt what you've heard, but your sources are likely somewhat behind the times. Vanderbilt has been targeting divesity for some time now and continues to do so.
Vanderbilt</a> News Service</p>
<p>Bubbly:</p>
<p>Here is a link to a recent report about enrollment of African American students at top US universities. Vanderbilt's freshman enrollment puts it 4th among all top universities (over 10 percent); it beats virtually all of the privates that make a big deal about their efforts to target minorities.</p>
<p>The Journal of Blacks in Higher Education:
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The progress at Vanderbilt University over the past decade has been extraordinary. In 1995 only 4 percent of all freshmen at Vanderbilt were black. This year the figure is 10.3 percent. Vanderbilt ranks fourth in this year’s survey, the same position it occupied last year. Two years ago Vanderbilt ranked tenth.
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<p>Of course, that does not address the issue of segregation on campus, and I think most people agree that is a subject of considerable concern. As I understand it, breaking that down is one of the goals of the new freshman Commons residential life program.</p>
<p>bubbly: Just had this conversation with someone on the Emory board.....Yes, Emory has diversity (a whopping 47% worth for the accepted incoming class)....but you need to visit the campus to understand what midmo refers to as "segregation on campus."......As a caucasian female who actualy prefers a diverse campus, it made my d extremely uncomfortable at Emory.....did not have that same feeling at Vanderbilt.....good thing she was admitted to Vandy and waitlisted @ Emory (and not the other way around)....</p>
<p>how did your daughter feel uncomfortable? I am looking to attend Emory, so I would like to know this as well</p>
<p>bubbly: I pm'd you</p>
<p>haha about the Emory goggles. But, other than that, why do people choose Vanderbilt over Emory? Unless I get an answer to that specific question, it makes no sense to tell me that. From what I hear, Emory people are pretty smart (about the same as Vanderbilt) and have a lot of fun, unlike a lot of what's been said here. So, unless you can give me something definitive, I think your anti-Emory rhetoric might be blinding you. For example, I know WashU tracks interests and I'm sure you'll agree with me that WashU has no issues with yield.</p>
<p>tu160m: I'm not trying to convince you either way, and I'd look stupid to try because I am not personally familiar with Emory. However, let me throw out a suggestion that others here have made, and maybe someone else will agree or disagree: Some say that the Emory campus does not have the feel of a cohesive or active campus, that students regularly have to leave the campus for out of class entertainment, in contrast to the Vanderbilt campus, where there is a lot going on on campus, always something to do right there.</p>
<p>Again, I'm not saying that, because I don't know. Of the two, I am only familiar with Vanderbilt.</p>
<p>Emory has one of the best undergrad business programs in the country. You said you were thinking of majoring in business. Vanderbilt has no undergrad business school. The closest thing would be the HOD program. As for campus atmosphere, Vanderbilt is a more traditional rah-rah type school (more sports-oriented). Both great schools but with some differences. Depends on what you are looking for.</p>
<p>Another difference is Emory people get disassociated with their students because they move off campus there soph. year and their entertainment is in Virginia Highlands area couple of miles away from campus. Only Everybody's Pizza near campus and a sandwich shop. Thus getting to know your fellow students is restricted to classes and apartment mates unless you join a club or frat/sor. I was talking to a Emory grad last nite and he said "he wished he had gone to a public school and saved the money". Sure it is just one persons opinion but with this conversation I thought it was worth saying. And Good night. Yes you can get a good Education at either school. Go where you feel comfortable because both schools are different but yet the same.</p>
<p>It would seem like a tough decision at first (both southern schools in major cities, ranked 17th and 19th, roughly the same number of undergrads, etc), but after visiting both I have to say Vanderbilt would be my choice (and, as it so happens, actually is my choice).</p>
<p>First, the money: All other things being equal, as a TN resident, you would be eligible for the Lottery Scholarship if you attended Vanderbilt, which is worth up to $5,000 per year. This might not seem like a big difference in the grand scheme of college costs, but $20,000 is never anything to sneeze at (unless you're Donald Trump of course).</p>
<p>Both Emory and Vanderbilt have business schools, but only Vanderbilt has an engineering school. I think you can get a dual degree with Georgia Tech at Emory, but I'm not sure how this would work or if it would take an extra year. Definitely look into this if you're seriously considering Emory.</p>
<p>To me, Nashville just seems more appealing than Atlanta. It's somewhat smaller, but has all the same attractions (sports teams, clubs, internships, big-name musical acts), without the same reputation for crime. Plus, Vanderbilt is actually IN Nashville, whereas Emory is a twenty-minute bus ride from downtown, and has no off-campus attractions except Everybody's Pizza (which is, by the way, excellent).</p>
<p>I guess Emory's Italianate architecture is more visually appealing than Vanderbilt's brick buildings, but Vandy has more trees and green space, and is proud of its 3:1 squirrel-to-student ratio (no kidding!). Plus, Vandy's class of 2012 gets brand new dorms!</p>
<p>And last but not least, you'd be going to school with me and some other pretty awesome people. And, as has been noted, Vandy's girls kick the crap out of Emory's!</p>
<p>(My friend has to make the same choice, and he's visiting both for overnight stays. I'm using the same arguments on him as well ;). If you're still torn between the two, definitely visit both, if you haven't already.)</p>
<p>LOL at tu160m</p>
<p>hey you can't forget all those fat squirrels at vandy that can't climb up a tree... think of what you'll be missing out on if you go to emory</p>
<p>The "diversity" that Vanderbilt has been building up in recent years hasn't really changed the campus at all. Students are very self-segregated and there is rarely any interaction between different races.</p>
<p>I've considered both schools before as well. I ended up choosing VU but for the wrong reasons. Emory seemed like a much more intellectual school as did Duke, but I'm not sure if the latter is one of your choices.</p>
<p>Good luck.</p>
<p>departed,
I'm curious... Do you like Vandy or dislike it? What were the "wrong reasons"?</p>