*Very important question**

Pre-Med & Medical School Multiple Degree Programs
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<p>i wanted to apply to the top 6-7 year accelerated med programs and wanted to know the top programs???</p>

<p>I only want to know about the top 6-7 year programs not 8 years</p>

<p>so here's what i believe are the top 5 not in any sequential order but just the top 5!!!!</p>

<p>Northwestern HPME
Boston University
Rutgers Newark_UMDNJ
University of Miami
Penn State</p>

<p>please tell me if these are the top 6-7 year med programs</p>

<p>also i have another question, Since I'm a New Jersey resident i wanted to know the difference between the two types of UMDNj programs?????????</p>

<p>1.UMDNJ- New Jersey Medical School (UMDNJ) and Boston University (BU) (7 year program) Applicants must be New Jersey residents. The program requires research experience during one summer at UMDNJ.</p>

<p>2.UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School (UMDNJ) and Rutgers- Newark (Rutgers) (7 year program) Guaranteed admission to medical school. Applicants require minimum SAT of 1400, must be ranked in top 10% of high school class, and must maintain a 3.4 GPA while in the undergraduate program. If you are interested in UMDNJ Medical School, you may apply to the following undergraduate universities: The College of New Jersey (CNJ), Montclair State University (MSU), New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), Richard Stockton College of New Jersey (RSC)</p>

<p>can someone please elaborate into detail what is the difference between the two and are the stats the same for both etc???????????????????</p>

<p>one last question is University of Miami located in Florida or Ohio</p>

<p>this one:</p>

<p>University of Miami School of Medicine (UM) (HPME program; 6 year program) Guaranteed admission into the medical school. Applicants requires minimum SAT score of 1360, be in the top 10 percent of high school class, take SAT II by Jan. 15 of senior year in high school, must maintain a 3.2 science GPA and 3.4 cumulative GPA. International students: Not eligible for the combined program. Contact: Maria Fallon at 305-284-4323</p>

<p>please respond elaborately ASAP</p>

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<p>I'm not sure about the two UMDNJ's either. I think they are both UMDNJ, just split into two halves, not much difference. </p>

<p>and, um, the U of Miami is in Florida . . . you know, like the city is in Florida.</p>

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<p>anyone else know the answer to the first two questions????????????</p>

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2.UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Medical School (UMDNJ) and Rutgers- Newark (Rutgers) (7 year program) Guaranteed admission to medical school. Applicants require minimum SAT of 1400, must be ranked in top 10% of high school class, and must maintain a 3.4 GPA while in the undergraduate program. If you are interested in UMDNJ Medical School, you may apply to the following undergraduate universities: The College of New Jersey (CNJ), Montclair State University (MSU), New Jersey Institute of Technology (NJIT), Richard Stockton College of New Jersey (RSC)

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<p>I believe that you don't pay for your undergraduate years (first three years). You get a free laptop from Dell. Umm good ska social scene.</p>

<p>You go to TCNJ for three years. And then UMDNJ for four years.</p>

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<p>Though your five choices are excellent, I think that Case PPSP and Rice/Baylor should be considered top five edp since they can both be compressed into 7yrs</p>

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<p>what about the second question any one know the difference between the two programs</p>

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<p>No, but I prefer the TCNJ/UMDNJ more than the BU/Rutgers program.</p>

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<p>i don't think there is a major difference between bu/umdnj and tcnj/umdnj but I'd def pick tcnj cause its a lot cheaper and its just as good as BU.</p>

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<p>Are you sure about RWJ-UMDNJ being the same program as NJMS-UMDNJ. From what I know, RWJ-UMDNJ is not for high school students (college sophomores apply). Also, you missed Rutgers as a place to apply for undergrad in the 7 year UMDNJ programs.
Also, I don't think it matters that much where you go to undergrad, as your medical degree counts more. But, if it were to, then Rutgers has a much, much, much better rep than TCNJ. I don't think anyone knows about TCNJ outside of New Jersey. Say Rutgers, however, and people would have heard of it. On the other hand, TCNJ would be more fun to go to.
Make sure you visit the campuses before you decide. I now think that I would have enjoyed going to HPME over BA/MD at Rutgers...but money is always a major decider.</p>

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<p>Oh yeah, didn't you post somewhere that you were a NY resident?</p>

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<p>I will attend HPME this fall and can try to answer some of your questions about the program, although there is a huge thread on it already in multiple degrees forum (one of the bulleted ones i think). It is definitely one of the best ba/md programs, but both the undergrad and medical schools are very expensive. Still, they are almost, if not at the caliber of ivy league schools (feinberg school of medicine is very prestigious, especially in research) and are in great locations. The program, although compressed to 7 yrs, requires no summer study and allows you the freedom to pursue any area of study you want during undergrad, provided that you meet the curriculum/gpa requirements. You can also study abroad your third yr/take a yr off/complete your BA in 4 yrs/apply to other medical schools while still guaranteed your seat in NW medical school. If you're interested in research, you can try to apply for the MD/PhD program, which is one of the best ones in the country. </p>

<p>HPME is def a sweet deal but its also one of the most difficult programs to get into. Most candidates are ivy-caliber candidates and those admitted often are also admitted to schools like harvard, princeton, yale, stanford, MIT, etc. If you are sure of your interest in medicine, definitely apply to HPME. And since you are free to pursue anything in your undergrad at a top university (NW is ranked 12 overall in US News I believe and some of its depts are ranked in the top 10 or top 5), HPME helps you build a strong foundation for a successful medical career, allows you to really have the time of your life in college, and gives you the opporunity to go beyond just being a clinical doctor in the future. </p>

<p>Good luck and feel free to ask me any questions</p>

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<p>Ah, I think I just found the difference between RWJ and NJMS . . . they're in different locations. Both are part of UMDNJ but they're different campuses.</p>

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Ah, I think I just found the difference between RWJ and NJMS . . . they're in different locations. Both are part of UMDNJ but they're different campuses.

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<p>Yes and also the rutgers-new brunswick/rwj program is only for sophomores as said above. The rutgers-newark campus is joined with NJMS and is for high school seniors.</p>

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<p>One of the best things about HPME is that you can apply out, if you think you can get into a better med school (your seat in the med. school would still be reserved). For Rutgers, the second you fill out the application to another med. school, your admissions to the NJMS will be rescinded.</p>

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One of the best things about HPME is that you can apply out, if you think you can get into a better med school (your seat in the med. school would still be reserved).

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<p>Wow thats a great deal. Never knew that.</p>

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<p>yeah, I know. But, if you maintain high standards at Rutgers/TCNJ, then it is a lot easier to get into a better med. school than if you're applying out from HPME. Why? Med. Schools have quota systems and, in general, 7 year BA/MD students do a lot better than those in the regular undergrad program at Rutgers/TCNJ (you are way ahead of the game, academically).</p>

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<p>hydrogen3k, can out of staters apply Rutgers/UMDNJ? Do you have any idea how many are accepted into the program? It seems that NJ residents are easier to get in. What do you think?</p>

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<p>Yes, out of staters can apply to the any of the UMDNJ 7 year programs. The problem is that they are at a slight disadvantage (in staters are given more preference). Why? The admissions committee wants the doctors to stay in NJ, so they think NJ residents would be more likely to stay in state. If you show that you want to practice and remain in NJ, then that would definitely help in your chances for admissions as an outsider. As for the other question, I don't know the number of out-of-staters are accepted, but around 25-30 people are given admissions, in general, and, probably, 15 accept the offer (most choose to go to ivies instead).</p>

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but around 25-30 people are given admissions, in general, and, probably, 15 accept the offer

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<p>Actually this year at tcnj/umdnj, 40 were accepted and 25 chose to come (to tcnj). However, i'm not sure whether that 40 was just for tcnj or for all of the undergrads. there is no doubt that the programs are getting tougher to get into as more people find out about them.</p>

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<p>thanks. its a tough decision to decide where to apply</p>