Villanova or Holy Cross??

<p>holy cross</p>

<p>^hah thanks, good contribution.</p>

<p>to those who are saying the princeton reviews’ academic rating is credible are misguided. Their information is similar to college…pr.wlers and according to college prow.ler Villanova is A- in academics and HC is a B+…Princeton review says HC has academic rating of 95, cornell 92, Georgetown 90, Notre Dame 90, BC 89, Villanova 88, Upenn 91, and a lot of other top institutions with lower ac rating. No rating would say that HC has better academics than several Ivys, ND, Gtown and all the other top schools that PR has HC better than…also PR is known for having wavering ratings, where one time a school is a 70 and overnight it is a 90…ie. not credible.</p>

<p>It’s hard to compare schools. A lot of times it’s comparing apples to oranges. Villanova is a large research institution and Holy Cross is a small liberal arts college. HC is a great school and is comparable to Georgetown, BC, Nova and ND. But it’s hard to quantify a schools academics. These 95s or B+ are meaningless; people just pull numbers or grades out of a hat to try to describe a school. From all your posts I gather you aren’t a Holy Cross fan, but that doesn’t mean it’s not a quality school. I hated Villanova when I visited, but that doesn’t make it a bad school. I applied b/c it was a good, but it just wasn’t for me. Holy Cross has a great reputation especially on the east coast; all my Boston relatives spoke so highly of it when I was applying.</p>

<p>“also PR is known for having wavering ratings, where one time a school is a 70 and overnight it is a 90…” [Please give an example of this]</p>

<p>I am as much a holy cross fan as you are a fan of villanova.</p>

<p>Seriously, I didn’t want to say it but you seem to show a sore attitude towards Holy Cross and you continuously try to shove them down while glorifying Villanova. They’re both great schools. Why bother trying to one up the other?</p>

<p>^Well said. </p>

<p>To each his own.</p>

<p>jen, I am not trying to shove them down…Every piece of information I use to state which school is better on any threads which are school comparisons, are facts with my interpretations of those facts. I.e test scores, acceptance rate, notable awrads by students, etc…in fact that is what most people do. It seems you just can’t handle when someone does not agree with you. I like holy cross and it was my second choice school…however it was not my first choice for a reason and I am going to state why.</p>

<p>Sounds a little like sour grapes. More than likely, Nova2011’s brother was the smart one in the family and went to Holy Cross. Nova2011 was waitlisted and had to settle for Villanova. As others have said Nova is a fine school. It even gets a passing reference back in 1964 in an article as a track-and-field power in “The Catholic Ivy League”.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,938328,00.html[/url]”>http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,938328,00.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Makes sense. According to US News, HC is much more selective.</p>

<p>Here are acceptance rates for top Catholic colleges per US News & World Reports:</p>

<p>Georgetown 19.8%
Notre Dame 28.6%
BC 30.1%
Holy Cross 36.5%
Villanova 46.4%
Fordham 49.6%
Stonehill 56.4%
Providence 59.8%
Fairfield 64.7%
Catholic 86.0%</p>

<p>We can “handle” when someone disagrees with us. We were just pointing out that you sound a bit bitter. It seems as if you got rejected from your top choice(s) and have settled on Nova. And now you are glorifying the school to try to make it less of a step down from your top school(s).</p>

<p>Requireddetails- selectivity means a lot, but it does not mean one school is better than the next…many notre dame kids would argue that their school is better than geroegtown despite having a higher acceptance rate. </p>

<p>1980collegegrad- haha, I actually am considered the smart one in the family, and your “ad hominem” argument does not make my argument any weaker…btw Holy Cross accepted me and offered me more money than Nova. Like I said I am not bitter of HC, it’s just that my brother who goes there is not even a big fan of the school, and he is in the top 15 of his class. </p>

<p>Lily- that is a good synopsis and is true-to some extent…but I know nova has limitations and is not as strong as gtown(my real first choice), and considered even lower than BC(although not by much). I am just standing up for the school I think is better (holy cross kids do it all the time!), and if any college has bitter students I am told it’s HC. Kids with great ECs, good GPAs, and then couldn’t get the 2200 SAT score to get into a top twenty school.</p>

<p>Nova2011, what was the whole point of this?!
Please share more nuanced complexities from the mind of your brother.
Are you attending Nova, then Georgetown, or staying at Nova?</p>

<p>I was responding to people who asked me questions or responded to my statements…what do you mean what is the point of that??</p>

<p>My brother was just an example of someone who attends Holy Cross who, unlike several of you, does not think it’s the best college in the US. </p>

<p>I am attending Nova but may transfer to Gtown.</p>

<p>A score of 2200 may not even get you into a top 20 school. As I said to each is own. I think all the schools we have been talking about are pretty comparable. I chose HC over BC, to me there wasn’t a difference academically, but you’d disagree. HC was actually my number one choice since I toured summer before my Jr year. There is no right answer to this question. You think one thing, I think anther, this whole thread is pretty pointless now that I think about it.</p>

<p>And I have been agreeing with you a lot along the way saying it is up to the person’s major, personal location preference, etc…for the most part it is pointless but at least there will be different opinions for future students to view when they are deciding between certain schools.</p>

<p>Another thought. “and if any college has bitter students I am told it’s HC. Kids with great ECs, good GPAs, and then couldn’t get the 2200 SAT score to get into a top twenty school.” If you think Villanova is better/comparable than/to HC then wouldn’t Nova be filled with those students as well? Nova student are smart kids, but 2200 would be way above the average. SAT scores for HC and Nova are basically the same.</p>

<p>Villanova has those students but they aren’t bitter about it…common muth/legend/truth HC students say is “we were invited to the ivy league, but we are catholic.” HC students want to be as close as possible to an ivy without actually having the scores of the ivy students. </p>

<p>Another one is “back in the 70s HC was better than BC, Nova, Gtown and Notre dame.” Well it isn’t anymore, get over it. HC students need to stop worrying about the past and how “ivy” there school used to be. </p>

<p>BC has the same type of students as Nova, and HC, but HC is the only one that feels bitter that they arent as good as a top twenty school.</p>

<p>Well that’s a huge generalization. I didn’t get that impression at all. I got it a lot from Gtown, but I think that had a lot to do with my tour guides. I don’t think everyone at Gtown is like that. HC is still a really strong school “ivy” or not. Other schools like BC have come a long way, but that doesn’t mean HC has gotten worse. HC is stll comparable to and in some cases arguably better than Gtown, BC, Nova, and ND. They are top Catholic colleges.</p>

<p>Just b/c I can here is a comparision by college board (BC/Nova/HC) [College</a> Search - compare colleges and universities side-by-side](<a href=“College Search - BigFuture | College Board”>College Search - BigFuture | College Board)</p>