<p>Even though Villanova is not ranked by US News, if they were to be, what number do you think they would be ranked?</p>
<p>My guess would be about 40.</p>
<p>I think most people, at least in the area, would put them on par with lehigh. So whatever lehigh is, 30 something? 33 maybe?</p>
<p>Villanova is ranked by US News. The National Universities ranking that everyone goes by is only for schools that offer degrees above Masters (I might have that stated wrong but I know that Villanova does not qualify for that ranking due to its focus on undergraduate studies).</p>
<p>US News does however have a ranking for schools that focus on masters degrees and below in which Villanova was ranked #1 in the North.</p>
<p>Don't know a lot about it but 33-40 seems kind of high for Villanova. I'd guess it would be in the 60-80 range.</p>
<p>I'd be curious to see how people compare it to Fordham; higher or lower.</p>
<p>40's-50's i'd guess</p>
<p>Villanova is easily on par with lehigh and others. low 30's would be the right number. There is no comparison with Fordham. Please look at the rankings that show villanova as #1 in schools for Masters degree's. They are number 1 by far, number 2is 14 points lower.
Again Villanova would surprise most people as it would fall easily in the 30 range.</p>
<p>USNWR says its rankings are "scientific formulas" which are "proprietary," a very perverse notion of what science is all about. By "proprietary" it means that the details of how the formulas work are not public; by definition, this is not science. </p>
<p>There is no clear statement in any of these rankings (for institutions of various kinds) of precisely what goes into each factor or how each of the ingredients is weighed (e.g., endowment or state support as an element of fiscal resources per student.)</p>
<p>That is a very long way of saying that we are all entitled to our opinion on this, but no one can say with any certainty where Villanova would rank if it moved from the "master's" category into the "national university" category. I would be very leery of any assertions made about where Villanova would wind up. It is simply impossible to run the calculation, not to mention the fact that the criteria shift in subtle (and sometimes not so subtle) ways between the different categories of institution (e.g., bachelor's, master's doctoral).</p>
<p>Beyond that, Villanova would be moving from a class of institution emphasizing undergraduate education and teaching (in which it has a stellar reputation) to a class emphasizing doctoral production and research (in which it has a very limited base).</p>
<p>Anyone know the acceptance rate for the incoming freshman class of 2011?
I can't seem to find it anywhere.</p>
<p>I seem to recall the admissions office announcing a 39% acceptance rate for the class of 2011 (apparently the first time the 40% barrier was broken), but I'm just relying on memory and can't point you to anything more concrete.</p>
<p>us news report did not have villanova in the top 100, which i find really weird.</p>
<p>I think it's very hard to glean anything from that "Top Masters - Northern" category. Most of those schools in there are lower-tier schools (like the one I attended).</p>
<p>And Villanova being 14 pts higher than the #2 school doesn't tell me much either. 14 pts below the top Nat'l Univ. (Princeton) is Brown and Northwestern. I don't think Fairfield compares with those.</p>
<p>I'm just struggling for some perspective on where 'Nova places in that larger, more prestigious list.</p>
<p>Villanova would not be in the low 30s. BC is in the mid-thirties and I am sure that it is much harder to get into than Villanova. Maybe low 40s.</p>
<p>Blaneyboy - Thanks for your info re acceptance rate.</p>
<p>You're welcome.</p>
<p>Be careful with "acceptance rates." They can mean very different things at different campuses.</p>
<p>Villanova's 39% rate means that of the students who applied, 39% were offered admission. I'd imagine somewhere around 50% of those kids actually enrolled - -and the other 50% had plenty of other options.</p>
<p>So, half of 39% is about 19-20%. Some admissions people (but more frequently student guides) get sloppy about this and you'll hear things like, "Only 19% of the students who apply here get in."</p>
<p>So, when exploring colleges on this issue, you want to be very specific with your question. How many apply? Of the applicants, how many are accepted? Of those accepted, how many enroll? Don't mistake the enrollees for the acceptance rate.</p>
<p>BTW: Typically in recent years, it is a significant advantage to be a male applicant . The majority of undergraduates these days are women; colleges are eager to enroll more men; and it is not at all unusual to have a situation in which a young man receives a letter of acceptance from a particular college, while a young woman with a virtually identical academic background is rejected or put on a waiting list by the same college.</p>
<p>I agree with kbius... villanova should b close 2 lehigh... US News has lehigh @ 37... so number 40-45 would b pretty reasonable.</p>
<p>high 30s or low 40s. great undergraduate programs.</p>
<p>Stonehill was in theUS Comprehensive Bach rankings as #1, but it dropped to 106 when transferred to the regular Liberal Arts US rankings...I try not to put too much into them.</p>
<p>yeah i would definately put nova about the same as lehigh</p>
<p>I don't think that nova can be accuratly placed on the US news list. All of the schools ranked on that list are research-oriented, while nova is teaching-oriented. Both types have their advantages and disadvantages.</p>
<p>Villanova should be in the 50-60 range - closer to Fordham. BC ranking is one that USNWR gets grossly wrong and should also be in the 50's.</p>