<p>I would easily but VCU/GMU over CNU.</p>
<p>Well...............just about any school has sent a student or two to top law schools..................what's the point? If you were looking at strictly rankings of Virginia colleges and universities, UVA/Wise is a very, very last resort. Name a school below it, please.</p>
<p>UVA certainly ranks highest in arrogance.</p>
<p>Pedsox, your opinions, however unsubstantiated, are about as mobile as a confederate statute. So I won't pursue this any further with you. Live long and prosper.</p>
<p>And to Venato, LOL.</p>
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<p>Tends to happen when you're the best school in the state.</p>
<p>Well on a final note Lake Washington..............I read many of your other posts to try and figure out the platform of expertise which you claim. Dude you are all over the friggin globe with your comments. Where do you even get off thinking you know sqat about Virginia, let alone Virginia colleges?? I detect a parent alert...............someone who is stuck in Glory Days. I'm hoping my William and Mary education will send me to a top law school. Confederate Statue...................what the **** are you talking about? Is that a comment directed at the South? Peace out and row away in bum f** Lake Washington. Your boss would like to know how much time you spend on the comp while at the office.</p>
<p>Copy and paste from previous thread -- </p>
<p>Here is USNWR data on Virginia schools under debate -- UVa, U Richmond, Va Tech, William & Mary, Washington and Lee. . . . Whatever your opinion may be, these are relevant facts: </p>
<p>% students w/ 700+ SATI scores:
UVA V35.6%, M40.9%
VT V5%, M11%
UR V24.3%, M28.4%
W&M V42.0%, M32.0%
W&L V43%, M48%
--W&L has the highest percentage of students with math and verbal SAT I scores above 700; VT has the lowest (a differential of at least 35 percentage points).</p>
<p>25%-75% SATI range:
UVA 1230-1430
UR 1250-1390
W&M 1250-1440
VT 1110-1290
W&L 1310-1450
-- W&L has the highest mid-50% range; VT has the lowest. W&L's 25th percentile average SAT I score is 20 points higher than VT's 75th percentile score.</p>
<p>% of students in top 10% of high school class:
UVA 84%
UR 60%
VT 36%
W&M 81%
W&L 86%
-- W&L has the highest percentage of top 10% high school grads; VT has the lowest (a differential of 50 percentage points). </p>
<p>Avg high school GPA:
UVA 4.0
UR not listed
VT 3.7
W&M 4.0
W&L 4.0
-- VT is the only reporting school with less than a 4.0 GPA average.</p>
<p>% of applicants who are accepted:
UVA 39%
UR 40%
VT 71%
W&M 35%
W&L 30%
-- W&L has the lowest acceptance rate; VT has the highest (a differential of 41 percentage points</p>
<p>Not trying to do anything here other than add data to the discussion. Some of it might be surprising -- either in terms of how close the numbers are, or how close they aren't. But they're just numbers -- these are all worthy schools that may be "better" in one respect or another.</p>
<p>lets look at the numbers for this year,</p>
<p>UVa
SATs, 1280-1490
top 10%, 87%
%admitted, 27.8%</p>
<p>W&M
SATs, 1280-1430 (2005)
top 10%, 80% (2005)
% accepted, 31% (2005)</p>
<p>W&L
SATs, 1330-1450
Top 10%, 76% (2005)
%admitted, 36.4%</p>
<p>until w&m releases this years information, uva is easily the most selective college in virginia. just some numbers for ya.</p>
<p>Jags, some of your data seems to be incorrect. Here are the numbers for the class that entered this fall:</p>
<p>UVa: </p>
<p>5,829/ 16,252 = 35.87%
Middle 50% SAT 1280 - 1490</p>
<p>W&L:</p>
<p>1,158/ 4,215 = 27.47%
Middle 50% SAT 1330 - 1450</p>
<p>I suspect that the reason why UVa's SAT scores are lower on the low end, and higher on the high end, than those of W&L is that UVa has two admissions systems- one for in-state students (who are the ones on the lower end of the SAT scores) and one for out-of-state students (who are the ones on the higher end of the SAT scores.</p>
<p>Jags-</p>
<p>Where did you get this 1280-1490 range for UVa? That would imply a 1385 midpoint for the entire class which is highly suspicious. A recent article on W&M's website implies a median SAT score of 1360 for its entering 2010 class. I suspect that if one weighted this range by in-state versus out-of-state one would get a composite UVa median of 1330 which is in line with the UVa-W&M differential over the past couple of decades.</p>
<p>At any rate, W&M is arguably the most selective public American university. Did you also know that its out-of-state applicant acceptance rate is 21%, the same as UPenn? </p>
<p>P.S. W&L is Virginia's most selective college; W&M is its most selective university.</p>
<p>how is JMU computer science/other sciences? how do they rank vs UVA and Tech?</p>
<p>oh and another question: does JMU have an engineering school?</p>
<p>Just to give you some extra info here are some stats from kids accepted from my school( a NOVA prep school)..</p>
<p>average accepted GPA and SAT (2400 scale)</p>
<p>UVA 3.93 2155
W&M 3.85 2118
W&L 3.73 2070</p>
<p>just to show how competitive these schools can be, this isn't meant to rank them</p>
<p>1putt,</p>
<p>you're right - i divided wrong with the %tage. my bad. (thats what happens when you post at 3 am) also, i couldn't find 2006 data for w&m readily on its website, so i just used its last common data set which is why i said 2005 on all of its stats.</p>
<p>UVa has a larger spread between its 25 and 75 simply because it is a large school. Remember, UVa only receives about 5000 more applications than w&m, but its freshman class size is 3x as large. It only makes sense that the numbers are dragged down on the lower end. Also, UVa recruites heavily for sports, therefore there are probably a lot of athletes who drag down the SAT score.</p>
<p>mascuille,</p>
<p>i got the uva sat ranges right off uva's website. also, i have no idea what you're talking about with weighting ranges and such - nor do i know why it has anything to do with anything.</p>
<p>Jags-</p>
<p>I believe that W&M gets about 10,000 applications per year implying from your number (5,000) that UVa gets only 15,000 so at 38% acceptance rate that further implies a class of 5,700. That can't be right. Where are you getting these numbers from? As for SATs, your football players are going to lower the averages but your swimmers are going to raise them. Unfortunately, football players usually outnumber swimmers at large universities. That's the price you pay for filling stadiums instead of minds. Can't have it both ways.</p>
<p>Hockeyfan-</p>
<p>Are you giving us a random sample of three students? Can we really extrapolate from that small of a sample?</p>
<p>macsuile, </p>
<p>at a 38% acceptance rate - which would give around 5,700 - and a 55%ish yield - that gives you a class of around 3,000 - which is roughly the freshman class. of course the numbers arn't exact - w&m gets like 10000ish SATs and UVa generally gets in the 15,000s although this year it got 16,000</p>
<p>you're right.</p>
<p>Still can't believe you are trying to compare apples to oranges - BIG public U's vs SMALL private college's to figure out which is the BEST school in VA - just doesn't compute at all - they attract different types of students and have very different personalities - so in many respects a very different applicant pool - can't really compare them logically :)</p>
<p>Do the big Washington DC schools -- Georgetown, George Washington, American, Catholic and Howard -- get large numbers of students from the Virginia suburbs?</p>
<p>Just wonderin'</p>
<p>The privates you listed don't get large #s of NOVA people.</p>
<p>yeah, remember, the only school you listed there thats comparable to UVa and W&M is georgetown, and theres absolutely no reason to go to Georgetown over those schools if you are actually from virginia - especially considering Gtown costs 3x as much as uva and w&m instate.</p>