<p>lol, jk.</p>
<p>I go to an inner city school in Miami. Almost 95% of the population is in support for Obama. I go to IB in the school, which is segregated from the rest of the population. I have JROTC, which is my only non-IB class.</p>
<p>Some of the kids were talking about how Obama is gonna get his RI-spect. There was this girl, who asked who I would vote for. I told here I was split down the middle. I was trying to tell her why I support Obama or McCain, but she kept cutting me off and kept asking who I'm gonna vote for. She didn't even care about WHY I supported a particular candidate.</p>
<p>At this point, I am like pulling my hair out. More than 80% of the faculty are democrats, and those that are republican keep to themselves. Everybody is talking about how the stupid american voters are all voting for dumbass palin, and I am annoyed because many people are voting for Obama because he is black, or he is going to effect some ambiguous change. </p>
<p>People are perfectly fine that people supported Hilary because she was a woman, but everybody at school has something to say about how all those voters are going to Palin, which is ********. Feminism and conservatism are like oil and water; so why would any person who supported Hilary for her feminist views and pro-choice and pro-same-sex marriage vote for someone who stood completely opposite?</p>
<p>And the worst part is, people are cognizant in the IB program that this is clearly going on in the school (of voting based on image), yet they don't say anything, because more support equals more votes, right? I know it's human nature, but I am annoyed because this is political relativism at its worst, as well hegemony at its worst.</p>
<p>I have to hear about Obamamania 24/7, and I am actually starting to lose sleep and get ****ing sick because of this crap.</p>
<p>Losing sleep because people don't stop talking about Obama? Laaame.</p>
<p>Sack up and stop complaining.</p>
<p>lol my whole IB class is democratic too. I am too so i am not complaining, just saying.</p>
<p>am i seriously the only one that feel this way? doesn't anyone care that the half the votes of each candidate in this election are going to be made by people who only care about image? doesn't anyone see a problem in democratic corruption here?</p>
<p>i guess people don't care because they are looking at it from the perspective of power of their party. Hell, if I was in a 95% McCain school and everyone voted ignorantly based on his image, I wouldn't mind because more support, more votes I guess.</p>
<p>Who cares? If this is your biggest problem, I'd say you're pretty lucky. Get over it. You have another month to go and then nobody will care. </p>
<p>And the majority of Hillary voters are not going to Palin. Anybody who still thinks that needs to stop watching Fox News (which is the only place I still hear about it.)</p>
<p>Yes, some people will vote for Obama simply because of his image. Others will vote for McCain because he's white or was a POW. </p>
<p>And puh-lease about the democratic corruption. ALL politicians are corrupt. If you don't know that, you live in a very sheltered world.</p>
<p>How is it corruption?</p>
<p>Should no women or non white people run for president so as to keep that factor out of the picture?</p>
<p>I am very much aware that that is happening. I am really aware that Bush probably went to Iraq to fulfill a legacy for his father, and that McCain has trashy campaign techniques. But everybody has this image of Obama as a savior. He is a freaking politician for crying out loud. He has his own interests, just like every other politician does. And frankly three of my teachers have said that all the women supporters of Hilary are going to Palin. And why would FOX News say that? Aren't they a right-wing Republican news station that wouldn't want any evidence of propaganda in this campaign?</p>
<p>And uh yeah, politics is corrupt. That is the point of my post. But normatively speaking, is this the way the democratic process should work? Is this really what America should be like?</p>
<p>And I never said non-whites or women shouldn't run for president. I said that people shouldn't vote based on these qualities.</p>
<p>The blind partisinship on CC will prevent most from even understanding what you are saying. And even if they understand, they won't admit you are right.</p>
<p>I love this thread.</p>
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<p>Just because we support a particular candidate or party, does not mean we are blind. That is a very 1-dimensional view of the human mind that is blatantly not true. I'm not saying it's not true for everybody, but do not make any widespread generalizations.</p>
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Losing sleep because people don't stop talking about Obama? Laaame.
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<p>i agree...noob</p>
<p>JTM I agree with you 100%. Well, I think the "losing sleep" thing is kind of silly, but I know exactly what you mean in your OP.</p>
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And the majority of Hillary voters are not going to Palin. Anybody who still thinks that needs to stop watching Fox News (which is the only place I still hear about it.)
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That's funny, because I watch FOX and CNN to hear both sides, and on neither station have I heard anyone say that they honestly believe that the "majority of Hillary voters" would go for Palin. How could anyone with a brain believe that? Their policies are dead opposite, and people who would switch candidates from that extreme to the other SIMPLY because of gender are ridiculous.</p>
<p>no, seriously, I was joking about the losing sleep thing, lmao. I have too much hw for that... But the topic has been on my mind.</p>
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Just because we support a particular candidate or party, does not mean we are blind. That is a very 1-dimensional view of the human mind that is blatantly not true. I'm not saying it's not true for everybody, but do not make any widespread generalizations.
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<p>Okay, 100% of CC is not blinded by partisinship.</p>
<p>Happy?</p>
<p>Although, Ill bet the vast majority (for either party) is fairly blinded. Most either don't realize it or won't admit it.</p>
<p>jtm is basically saying that we the voters are electing our presidents, our world representative, for all the wrong reasons. And that should bother everyone here.</p>
<p>Partisan loyalty, demographic identity, and regional borders are the LAST things that we should consider when picking a candidate. Even George Washington, in his Farewell Address, explicitly stated this. </p>
<p>This candidates are running for presidency, and that is a BIG responsibility. Look at how many people are ****ed about Bush. And we voted him in *twice<a href="albeit%20it%20was%20due%20more%20to%20the%20fact%20that%20he%20had%20just%20started%20a%20foreign%20war%20than%20anything%20else">/I</a>. If we keep voting for the "candidate we can best relate to," and not for the candidate that can proficiently fulfill his/her duties, then America deserves to stay down the drain.</p>
<p>ah thank you finally! we have a war, international threats and a stock market crisis! shouldn't people be looking at the issues rather than the image? and shouldn't it be the duty of americans to do so?</p>
<p>^ Yeah, it should be. It should also be their duty to vote, but many do not. Is it worth it to pull your hair out over something you can't control? No. </p>
<p>I'm pretty sure everyone agrees you should vote for whoever you believe shares your views and will do best for the country, but not everybody does. Again, what are you going to do about it? </p>
<p>My point is, don't worry about something you can't control. </p>
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<p>Technically, we only voted for him once. But that has to do with electoral college issues and is for a different thread, lol.</p>
<p>The majority of HS students' political views are just reflections of their parents'. In general, HSers are not knowledgeable about politics. Learn that and stop losing sleep.</p>
<p>Yeah, it bothers me, of course it does. But that's the deal with a democracy--everybody gets a vote, no matter how dumb they are. People are allowed to base their votes on images or race or anything else they want, because it's <em>their</em> vote. We can do what we can--raise awareness, educate voters--but in the end it's not up to us. So yeah, I'm frustrated that people in my class are voting for Obama just because their parents are, but I'm certainly not losing any sleep over it!</p>