Wait listed for class of 2020

I just found out I was wait listed for CWRU. It was my dream school. I have been accepted into about 7 other schools so I have lots of back ups but as a nursing major, CWRU would really be best.

Do they wait list because they don’t have enough dorms??

Sorry that you have been waitlisted from your first choice school, but no Case does not waitlist because they don’t have enough dorms.

They wait list because either…

  1. You’re overqualified and they think you won’t attend the college so they want to make space for other people
  2. They would accept you, but you’re their 2nd choice

When will I find out if I made it off of the wait list?

@courtney416 Well by April 1st, you can either accept or decline the waitlist offer. May 1st is national acceptance day, by then seniors will have decided where they are going. So after May 1st, they will start to accept people off the waitlist.

I noticed that Case Western’s Vice President for Enrollment Management, Rick Bischoff and Director of Undergraduate Admission, Bob McCullough have been giving presentations titled: “Hot Topics: The Waitlist”. Thus far, the presentation was given in Chicago and Fort Lauderdale. The presentation description is written as: “To those who work with college applicants regularly it is likely apparent that universities’ use of the waitlist to manage their enrollments has grown nationally. Hear about the forces driving this trend, why waitlisting has become so prevalent and how you can counsel waitlisted students.”.

Does anyone know what information they shared? Or how Case Western is utilizing their waitlist? How should a waitlisted applicant be counseled?

Thanks in advance.

Also wait listed- surprised because I thought it was a “target” school for me. This doesn’t bode well for my reach schools I guess…

Anyone else surprised they were wait listed?

@lopsided1234 this might be a good sign since Case is crazy about admission yield they might have thought you were overqualified and so wouldnt plan on attending.

@hechopecho Let’s be honest it’s not any type of sign

If you haven’t noticed CASE sends 65% of people who didn’t get accepted into their waitlist pool.

You can’t tell me that Case is actually considering all 65% of people they didn’t choose to accept in the first place.
I don’t get why they’re wasting people’s time by waitlisting them. Instead of using it as a soft deny just actually have a real wait list and an actual denial list.

What I have noticed over the years on CC:

  1. Make sure to let CWRU know their are your #1 choice (if that is the case)
  2. If CWRU is interested in admitting you off the waitlist, they will ask you first if you will attend. If you say no, they won’t admit you. If you say yes, then they will. This is to help their yield (admitted vs. matriculated students)
  3. They will offer scholarships to people admitted off the waitlist
  4. 6600 are offered a place on the waitlist, 3000 accept a place on the waitlist, 480 get accepted off the waitlist

@Leicisbest they aren’t wasting your time…you can choose to be on the waitlist or not. They are maximizing their yield.

@bopper

I understand that CASE has to protect their yield in order to get a higher ranking and etc but I feel let down by the admissions process there for a couple of reasons.

1). I don’t know how to let CWRU know that they are my #1 choice. Doesn’t applying there already signify that I would want to go? I think if CWRU has this problem with yield protection due to the fact that they have a free common app with no essay. This of course causes an inflated number of apps half of which from applicants that were never considering CWRU which causes them to protect their yield.

2). Even if CWRU lets me be one of the 16% of people accepted off their waitlist it’s going to be a highly inconvenient wait for me. Earliest I’m going to hear about getting off the waitlist will probably be early to mid May. At this point I would have lost money paying a deposit on another college while waiting for CWRU.

I just hate getting caught in the middle of the admissions game.

extra question on your second point when CASE asks you if you will attend or not do they give you a preview of the scholarship they are going to offer you? I wouldn’t want to commit to a price I couldn’t afford or would leave me with a huge debt because in such a situation CWRU would be holding all the cards they know you want to go there and thus wouldn’t have to offer you as much money as a candidate they want to sway. Another negative to this process.

@Leicisbest

Do your stats and ECs match up with posters to this forum who received admission and merit awards or is this a reach for you? The best way to tell Case that they are your number one choice is to actually tell them. Call your admissions representative and let them know. Have a conversation. In past years candidates from the waitlist have also been offered merit scholarships so do not despair on that front either. It sounds like you are giving up on Case so you have nothing to loose and everything to gain by making that call if they are really your first choice. Also, I have noticed in past years that kids have come off the waitlist BEFORE May 1. Good luck!

Being on the wait list is a pain, but I don’t see any way for colleges to avoid it altogether when so outcomes are so unpredictable. They can only enroll so many people.

Yes @Leicisbest, Case, like all other universities, is playing a numbers game…Selectivity is related to number applied vs. number admitted…so a free app helps with the number applied.

  1. Case considers “Demonstrates Interest” as Important…so many people apply, but they want to know you care enough to visit, open emails, attend info sessions, etc. You could email your admissions counselor and tell them
    http://admission.case.edu/contact/admissioncounselors.aspx

  2. This is true…that is why you can decide you want to be on the wait list or not…you should be choosing another school that you want to attend in case you don’t get in to CWRU.

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If you look at previous posts, e.g., http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/discussion/comment/12520246#Comment_12520246

If you were selected from the waitlist you would get an email/letter like this:
Dear **********,

I’m writing with great news. Case Western Reserve University is extending you an offer to join the class of 2015. Congratulations! Your official offer of admission is being sent today via overnight mail.

We’ll also be sending you a follow-up e-mail which will contain instructions on activating your CWRU network ID and submitting an enrollment deposit. We are extending your deadline to deposit until May 5, 2011.

Based on the credentials you presented in your application for admission, you will qualify for a minimum of $24000 per year in university gift assistance. If you are a U.S. Citizen or Permanent Resident and submitted a FAFSA, you will receive a complete financial aid package with your offer of admission.

If you have any questions about financial aid or making an enrollment commitment, please contact us at admission@case.edu or 216.368.4450.

Best Wishes,

Bob

Robert R. McCullough
Director of Undergraduate Admission

And so it begins. It strikes me as being similar to middle school flirting. “I don’t want to tell him I like him unless he likes me first”. The problem with this beyond being irritated by these shenanigans, is that it makes it hard to do an accepted student visit with the timing.
The email from yesterday:

Dear XXXX,

Because Case Western Reserve University is committed to providing an outstanding educational experience to all our students, including maintaining our small class sizes and providing housing options to any student we admit, we have chosen to be conservative with our initial offers of admission this year. Combined with the increase in applications, this means many qualified students were asked to take a place on our wait list this year.

I’m writing to provide you with a brief update on how Case Western Reserve will communicate with applicants taking a place on the wait list.

The week of March 28, 2016, Case Western Reserve will provide estimated financial aid packages to students on the wait list who have indicated an interest in need-based aid and completed both the FAFSA and the CSS/Financial Aid PROFILE. Students who would qualify for scholarship if they were to be admitted from the wait list will be notified at the same time.

Beginning April 1 and throughout the course of the spring, we will be in touch with you weekly via email to provide you with an opportunity to keep Case Western Reserve informed of your plans and your interest in remaining on the wait list. If we are able to offer admission to any students on the wait list, we will use the responses to these emails to identify interested students, so it will be important that you respond each week if you remain interested. When we contact you, I hope you will elect to remain on the wait list.

We remain optimistic we will be able to offer admission to a number of qualified students from the wait list. In recent years, Case Western Reserve has admitted as few as 40 and as many 800 students from the wait list. We have begun offering admission to students on the wait list as early as April 15, but offers are often extended in the final week of April and throughout the month of May.

As a reminder, all students who are admitted from the wait list:
are considered for merit scholarships (about 75% of the U.S. Citizens and Permanent Residents who were admitted from the wait list last year received a scholarship)
are considered for need-based financial aid if they would otherwise qualify
are guaranteed on-campus housing
If you have questions or concerns, please feel free to contact the Office of Undergraduate Admission at 216.368.4450 or admission@case.edu, Mondays through Thursdays from 8:30 a.m. to 8 p.m. EDT and Fridays from 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. EDT.
Best regards,

Bob

anyone know if they take second semester transcripts into consideration?

You would hear from them slightly before or after May 1, only the 3rd marking period. It would not hurt to send your grades in (if they are very good) and express your interest if you would attend if offered (if that is the case)

what else can I do to better my chances for Case? I’ve already emailed admissions expressing my continued interest, should I call and try to find more information?

I am not sure there is much you can do…read/open any email you get from them…at this point they are waiting to hear from those who were admitted…maybe search this forum for waitlisted students who got an offer and see if they did anything but wait.

Received the estimated merit/financial aid email other day for wait listed student. Likely merit aid was $8000 less than what the net price calculator predicted. Lower than regular decision indicated on the forum as well for comparable stats.