<p>or hoping for the College Board to finally come to its senses and stop recycling the old domestic tests for the international markets. This charade is akin to offering cheap drugs to addicts, as it is known how rampant the organized cheating is abroad. </p>
<p>It would nice for the College Board to administer a totally unreleased test overseas and later publish a study on the differences in scores between the previous bastardized versions and this unadultered test. And perhaps realize the meaning of the word integrity. </p>
<p>Your post is good and you should feel good!
All memes aside, as an international student, the prospect of taking a test that has been “basardised” (as you so elegantly personified it) is, quite frankly, offensive. </p>
<p>On a completely unrelated note, I enjoy your writing; thank you for providing such meaningful posts to a somewhat frantic community. I’m a follower of yours and sincerely thank you :)</p>
<p>^ seriously dude, not the right thread to ask a question like that… -_-</p>
<p>@xiggi, I am an international student, and I can tell you we are not happy with this situation either! It is just so provocative how Collegeboard seems to underestimate us that much. seriously, we do not choose to take the American curriculum and in turn, pay them to take a test that is supposed to assess us, to find out that we are just taking their trash, just because they don’t have enough brains to do their job properly or maybe printed too many test papers once decided not to throw them away for the poor trees… </p>
<p>And yes, some do benefit from this but believe me, NOT to the extent you think… unless they are seriously lifeless and somehow have some super duper illegal source to get ALL the previously administrated tests, just for the minor possibility that a test may be repeated or a section from here or there… I personally have never met someone of the sort… And those who do cheat or come up with the exam, ironically, fail or get caught because of sheer stupidity…
My point is, the “study on the differences in scores between the previous bastardized versions and this unadultered test.” is unfair to both sides…
As a matter of fact, it is just more unfair to the millions out there who take the test after doing their best to prepare, and then get their scores delayed and go through trouble if they get an exceptionally high score because they are suspected of cheating since they took the test in test center so or so, or were in country so or so… As much as those studies hurt you, the stereotype now held against us international students hurt us! We are both in midst of this dilemma just because Collegeboard are too “bored” or “lazy” to treat us like we deserve… Integrity, I suppose, is not part of the “Hot Word for SAT” I guess. ha…
I know coming up with the “right” questions, is not an easy task, but there has to be a way other than just “recycling” tests… give me break! Hire more employees CB, for crying out loud!</p>
<p>Im interested in finding this out. I took the SUNDAY TEST and I had a different version, just for clarification, than the saturday takers had. I didnt know that the test would be reused, but it turns out that my test was the March 2012 sat test. Im wondering (but after extensive research of the sat equating system Im pretty sure that I know) whether or not the curves for the tests will be the same. I know for a fact that the experimental sections from THE EXACT TESTING DATE affect the curve FOR THAT TESTING DATE, thus the curve should be different, considering the fact that i had different experimental.
Source [What</a> happens between when you finish the SAT and scores come out? - The SATHabit Blog](<a href=“Testive”>Testive)
Any posters, maybe Xiggi since you have a great reputation, PLEASE share your thoughts!</p>
<p>The worst part is that in certain Asian countries, quite a few of the major [read: the more expensive] SAT cram schools offer a couple textbooks with most/all of the past tests.</p>
<p>If the test is reused, the experimental sections are also reused, and the “curve” is the same. The College Board’s website quite clearly says that your score is not affected by the performance of others who take the test on the same day. See here:</p>
<p>And while it is true that past <em>released</em> (i.e., QAS) tests are widely available at cram schools in Korea, China, etc., <em>released</em> tests are not reused. March tests are not released, and they are not administered outside of North America, so it is hard to imagine how too many people in East Asia could have gotten their hands on the March 2010 test before the January 2013 SAT.</p>
<p>Cheating is the Korean way, and we’ve got it down to a precision. For the woefully ignorant, let me shed some light on how it’s done. </p>
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<li><p>Previously unreleased tests are obtained illegally through test brokers in the U.S. and China and sold anonymously online or directly to various SAT cram schools at ludicrous prices. Considering that the parents of many students who attend these cram schools will pay around $10,000 a month in tuition fees, it’s a small price to pay for any SAT institute looking to cash in big.</p></li>
<li><p>You might well ask, then, how these unreleased tests are obtained by the test brokers. Test-takers hired by these institutes or the teachers themselves secretly bring cameras into the test centers and take pictures of the actual tests. There are also many cases in which some of the proctors with access to the tests or someone closely affliated with College Board leaks the questions. These are some bold accusations, you might say, but you’re a fool if you think money doesn’t corrupt even those at the highest levels of our most hallowed educational institutions. </p></li>
<li><p>The proctors themselves turn a blind eye and allow students to cheat to a certain degree as long as they do so discreetly. Many of the students in Korea take the test at their respective schools, and in Korea, many private high schools that administer the test are desperate to increase their ranking and governmental funding by sending kids to prestigious universities in America. </p></li>
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<p>I mean, I haven’t even begun to touch the tip of the iceberg in terms of the shocking degree to which cheating is so widespread and so easy in our fine country when it comes to the SAT. </p>
<p>I hope they crucify all the cheaters and implement U.S.-style RICO statutes that treat these SAT institutes like the criminal organizations that they are. </p>
<p>But hell, I’m a hypocrite 'cause I’d probably do it myself if I could. But since I don’t have the wits or balls to do so, let’s take down all the cheaters together!!!</p>
<p>Natand- Unfortunately that’s not true. i compared my experimental section to those that others had on the march 2012 sat and it was different. NO ONE HAD MY EXPERIMENTAL SECTION, implying different curves, seeing that the experimental sections are a major part of defining the curve for a specific test.
Let me know if you have any resources or links that can prove this wrong or prove something else. I’d really appreciate it.</p>
<p>econ - yeah, there’s also something similar for the TOEFL.
The really funny thing is that many Koreans still do flagrantly poor on the tests despite purchasing these cheatbooks…</p>
<p>This is the second thread in which efforts to correct your misunderstanding have been greeted with responses like “unfortunately, that’s not true” and (in the other thread) “unfortunately [so and so] is wrong.”</p>
<p>Thus far, however, you have not offered any evidence that the same test can have different “curves” on different days. Instead, you have relied on a rather circular bit of reasoning that starts with the very misunderstanding that people are trying to correct–that is, that the “curve” depends on the performance of the people taking the test on any given day.</p>
<p>Sure that may be what “curve” means for high school grading, but it is not what “equating” means for the SAT. (The College Board does not use the term “curve,” probably precisely to avoid this kind of confusion.) </p>
<p>As the College Board’s own website clearly states (see the link in my previous post), “Equating also ensures that a student’s score does not depend on how well others did on the same edition of the test.”</p>
<p>And yes, I have seen repeated experimental sections first hand. The May 2012 Sunday/international test was a repeat of the December 2009 international test, complete with repeated experimental sections.</p>
<p>Can I be sure that your experimental sections were repeated? No, I don’t suppose I can. But I can be sure that your “curve” will be the same as he “curve” for that test’s previous administrations.</p>
<p>Well thanks for clearing things up! I PROMISE that I had a different experimental section, but your rationale makes a lot of sense. Sorry if I came off as an arrogant idiot hehe… I know my scores, but when the curve (as to how many I actually got wrong and what my scaled score becomes when I see the full score report) is released I will make sure to post it on this thread.
Thanks for the great info</p>