Waitlist Class of 2021

College Majors Musical Theater Major
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Carefully copy and paste the LAST list AND these instructions. Add your name/info (in alphabetical order) under each school where he/she is waitlisted so that is appears in red. Update when (1) Released from WL, (2) Accepted off of WL, or (3) Sent notice that he/she is no longer interested. To color it red, copy the code as it is below, add in your information, then REMOVE THE SPACE IN THE FIRST BRACKET BEFORE THE WORD “COLOR”:

[ color=red] Name, D or S, home state, program [/color]

MT & Acting WAITLISTS FOR 2021 BY COLLEGE

BALDWIN WALLACE
MomofMTBoy S MT
EIS0301, Myself (S), MT
Freddieggirl, D, GA
Momadrama, D, MT
DefyingGravity2, D, TX, MT

BALL STATE
KelviVan, D, TX Accepted 3/29
MTMommma, D, CA, MT Priority Waitlist

CARNEGIE MELLON
WindsInTheEast, S, Acting

CHAPMAN
marg928, D, NJ, BFA Screen Acting
sopranomtmom, D, CA, BFA Screen Acting

DRAKE
RosesMT, D, MI, BFA MT
CentralOHMomof4, D, OH, MT

EMERSON
Momadrama, D, MT
JWU1964, S, MA, MT
Ginja17, D, MA, MT

INDIANA UNIVERSTIY
Momadrama, D, MT

JAMES MADISON BA
MomofMTBoy S MT
theaterwork D MT
MTMHopeful, D, PA, MT

MARYMOUNT MANHATTAN
daughtersdreams, D MT Maryland
bdedad, S MT New York

MONTCLAIR STATE
WhiteRaven1, (ME) D, ACTING

NYU/TISCH
Momto2artists, D, TN, MT or any studio
waiting4life, D, CA, MT studio
KAF011, D, NC, BFA Acting

OTTERBEIN
HighNotes, D, SC, MT

PACE UNIV.
Monkeiiboy, S, MT (alternate)

POINT PARK
JWU1964, S, MA, MT

ROOSEVELT --CCPA VOICE
JWU1964, S, MA, MT

SHENANDOAH CONSERVATORY
Monkeiiboy, S, MT

SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY
KAF011, D, NC, BFA Acting

TEXAS STATE
bexsky26, S, BFA MT

UNC SCHOOL OF THE ARTS
marg928, D, NJ, BFA Acting

UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA
sopranomtmom, D, CA MT

UNIVERSITY OF THE ARTS
theaterwork, D, MT accepted 3/30

UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA/GUTHRIE
EIS0301, Myself (S), Acting
marg928, D, NJ, BFA Actor Training

UNIVERSITY OF UTAH
waitingforlife, D, CA

WAGNER COLLEGE
LBSMOM, D, PA

WESTERN MICHIGAN
sopranomtmom, D, CA MT
mtmajorpls, S, MI, MT
momadrama, D, MT

WRIGHT STATE
Mardeen, D, WA

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Okay, what are the real chances of coming off a waitlist??

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My daughter got a call yesterday that she came off the waitlist at her top choice school! She is over the top excited!

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Yes!! That is awesome. Maybe there IS hope!
Which school waitlist did she come off? (If you can answer that)

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@ginja17 I sent you a message

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@ginja17 That is an impossible question to answer because of all of the different variables! You may consider calling the program and asking HOW they have their WL set up. Many programs have it by “type”. So, the person with the offer that is the same type would have to reject their offer. I think a lot of programs operate this way. There are also those that have a male and female WL that is in order of priority. My D was on a WL until well into April. It’s such a difficult position to be in. My D and I had to come up with a plan and put dates on those plans. So that she could make her decision and commit…not just to a school, but mentally commit. Once she let that WL go, it was such a relief because she was able to put her whole head and heart into her program. I’m happy to say she is thriving and loves her school! Hang in there…the for torture is almost over! Pretty soon you will be focusing on dorm essentials and buying swag!

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@MTRaleighmom it is really interesting what you said about being able to mentally commit. My daughter was really feeling mentally “stuck” being on this waitlist and knowing they may call, or they may not. She was struggling with moving forward and embracing her other really good options. This aspect of the process was something neither of us had put much thought into. She had alot of hard “No’s” along the way, which she was prepared for…but definately did not consider the possibility of being soooooo close you can taste it, yet may get a no at the end of the road. I am definately thinking of everyone who is in this position and keeping fingers crossed!

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@Onourown My D is wait listed at NYU and Syracuse for BFA acting. We are flying up to look at Syracuse last week in April in case she comes of the wait list. Have already toured NYU. Please message and me and let me know more about you coming off the wait list and what school if you don’t mind. My D isn’t holding her breath, but didn’t think it would be this early either. The wait!..

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IMHO that wait list issue is the most under talked issue. When we got to the end and had 3 yes and one wait list, my kid had been snagged into a chat room with the other accepted students and older students in the programs. We went out to see early because of course it aligned with spring break, when she came off the WL for the "other"she was already snagged in to the her accepted top choice and was sick of missing school. Plus when she came off the WL she was past Spring break and headed towards grad and prom stuff… In hindsight I do not think she would have chosen differently but…if we had been better prepared to just wait to sign up to group chats, or to having to get a dorm room, or to having to visit early etc etc, a few more visits might have ended up with a more informed decision. We are very very happy with our choice but reading all the WL stuff currently brings back now crazy that last month is.

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@sbc I completely understand what you are saying. We have sat in limbo for weeks and my D finally came to me the other night asking if we could take a trip this weekend to visit her “next choice”. It took a long time, but she was finally beginning to really consider her options. I think within the next week, she would have made a choice and not looked back…but the call did come. It is an extremely difficult position to be in at this point in time!

My D is very private and has asked me not to list out all of her schools on the Acceptance / Wailist threads on here, so I have not done so thus far. She does understand how much we all need support, though, so please feel free to message me if anyone is curious about which school or just needs some support / hope and I will share.

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My son is having a difficult time visiting his potential schools and envisioning himself there while he is waiting for the WL at his #1 school. He is really trying to see himself at the schools he got into, but so far, no luck. We have 3 more schools on our list of where he’s been accepted and he has to settle on one of them before May 1. He is desperately trying not to get his hopes up about coming off the WL at BW. And he is really trying to look at his remaining schools (which are all wonderful choices, and if he weren’t on a WL, I think he could really be excited about the variety of his options). But waiting to be released or accepted makes it really hard to fully commit to another program. If anyone has any sage words of advice that they are telling their kids, that would be great. I want to somehow try to get my son to be open to these great schools he is visiting. I want him to be open to the idea that one of these schools could be a great fit for him. But for now, he is just not able to embrace the birds in hand. Nothing seems as perfect as his WL school. Advice on how to refocus him on the schools that he has acceptances to?

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@MomofMTBoy - I can completely relate. BW was my D’s first choice program and she was on the BW waitlist in her audition cycle right up until April 28th or 29th I think. She was a Nov. audition and had been on that WL since December. In the end, it didn’t work out. She would be the first to tell you that she felt, at the time, like she chose Hartt as a “consolation prize” (she had other acceptances, a WL at Brandeis and NYU Steinhardt too, and eventually NYU came through but with no money, so that was out for us). It was a tough few weeks at the end and she really could not get behind going to Hartt at all until she went back for a “shadow day” visit, and even then, we committed there only after the BW WL became a firm no. (We would have deposited at Hartt anyway if we had not heard, but likely would have switched if we had gotten the call from BW)

That said, in hindsight, she now says she doesn’t think she would even have been happy at BW. She loves her school, is getting excellent training and is growing by leaps and bounds. I am not a person who thinks “everything happens for a reason” - I have seen too much horrible stuff that there is no reason for, but I do believe that things sometimes work out for the best. I am really glad that they did for my D, even if her application process was not one that ended with her jumping around the room, screaming in excitement, the way we hoped it would be.

I hope things work out for your S, but just know that if they don’t, there is still a lot of happiness and success ahead for him, wherever he lands.

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@MomofMTBoy - somehow he needs to act as if Baldwin Wallace was a NO for now and examine only his wonderful acceptances. Have him really delve into each of the accepted programs so he is thinking about them and not BW. For example, have him write or print out the 4 year curriculums for each of his acceptances and have him decide which set of classes most appeals to him. Have him make a list of pros and cons for each of his acceptances and compare those as well. Have him communicate with current and incoming students to the acceptances that are rising to the top of his list and see who he clicks well with. I know his schools are all over the place so it is probably not possible to visit his accepted schools at this point - but if any are in visiting distance, you might want to go and spend time on campus as an accepted student. Also, have him google the various programs on Youtube and see if he can find any recent performances by students. Have him google alums of the programs and see who is working in places like he envisions himself working. The more invested you can make him in examining all of this info, the more focused you can make him on his choices at hand. Lastly, if you feel comfortable, have him talk to the program directors again with any specific questions he has. Perhaps in communicating with them he will feel either a connection or lack of a connection personally that will help guide his decision.

Once he has made his choice from his current acceptances, celebrate the decision! Eat cake! Buy the sweatshirt and bumper sticker. Join the student and parent groups. Proudly announce where he is going and make him realize it is a choice to be happy about.

One caveat: As a family, you also need to assume BW is off the table for the time being. He needs to accept another program by May 1 if you want him to go to school in the Fall. BUT – be prepared for how you will respond if BW comes about after May 1. Are you willing to forego deposits, etc. that you may lose? I would not talk to him a lot about that at this point because you don’t want him thinking about BW - you want him to focus on his choices in hand right now. But people come off wait lists all the way through summer sometimes as their circumstances change. So you need to know how you as a family will wish to respond at that point. You may be surprised. Once a student has accepted to a school and started envisioning their college years there, they sometimes decide to stick with that choice instead of changing to their wait listed school event if they come off the wait list. The important thing for you is being aware of the financial ramifications (losing deposits, etc.) if he does decide to change and if you are ok with that.

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@MomofMTBoy @vvnstar @gingersnap97 thanks so much writing - this is totally the boat we are in! 4 waitlists and all of them are top top choices…I feel like she has to come off of one of them. But what is she doesn’t? Your advice is really appreciated.

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I second @vvnstar in all her points. I think you have to move forward for your kids mental health lol and your own and since it’s so close to may 1 , it makes sense to sit down and say “look , these are what we have right now and we need to move forward” . Send the money to secure your spot so that stress is gone and then cross the waitlist bridge if it comes into play which it may very well not. Or it may… but I’m a person who likes the bird
in hand approach. My D has made her final
decision choice from her acceptances in hand and even though she would entertain her remaining waitlist she is on if they were to make an offer, We can’t wait for something that may never happen.

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To add to what @theaterwork has said. My daughter, just within the past few days, was starting to move past the WL and started to move forward to her next choice. She knew it was a great option, she was just mentally and emotionally stuck in WL limbo and needed to process and move forward in her own time. These are extremely talented,bright, resiliant, focused artists who have made it this far. And they will all get to where they need to be.

My own daughter only applied to places she felt she would attend. After auditions, she prayed for one “yes” at any one of them. It was a struggle for her to go from being so open to any, to not seeming to appreciate the options in front of her, because her heart was in one place. But she was definately getting back there when the call came.

Best of luck to all

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@MomofMTBoy I saw from the venting, sharing posts, that your son has some excellent choices that others would envy. Everyone’s advice here has been spot on. He needs to accept the compliment and affirmation of the BW WL, but consider it a No. Then focus on all the positives of the other opportunities.

My D put it like this: “I’d rather go to a school where I was a first choice from the start because it makes me feel good. If I went to a Wait List school I’d always be wondering why they didn’t want me in the first place.”

Now I know that isn’t really what a Wait List is about. But it’s something that helped my D feel happy and embrace the choices she has.

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The two kids who came off the WL at Michigan last year have not been hampered by it a bit. They have been part of the team since day one. Everyone considers a WL a win. A program just can’t take as many as could fit the bill.

Regarding moving on, I think it’s a little early. So much time and emotional capital has been poured into the process. How can a student move on so soon? Sure, it makes sense to evaluate offers and decide which is the top pick of the acceptances that are in hand for purposes of meeting the May 1 deadline, but I understand holding out hope for that favorite school. There’s a lot of grieving that goes on in this process, a lot of letting go, even when you have several really good offers. Each student worked so hard to get them and every program is a little different so you are always giving up something. It’s stressful choosing a program and it can be very difficult to let go of a waitlist. Patience and due-diligence are super important at this point for all involved. Gather all the information, including relevant financial information, visit the schools at the top, if you can, including waitlist schools, and give your student space and time to evaluate the choices and make a decision. No decision is needed until May 1, and that’s a full 23 days away.

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Just to clarify what I meant by considering your WL a No for now – it is not to give up on it. It is to turn your focus on your current choices in hand so you have a decision made for May 1. If you are going to do visits, calls and research you only have a few weeks to re-examine how you feel about the schools to which you’ve been accepted. Analyzing which is best for you should keep you busy and keep your mind off the potential WL for the next few weeks. Fact is, it is really tough for some kids to focus and really love one of their acceptances when all they are hoping for is to get in their wait listed school. That’s why they need to push the wait list aside in their minds for the time being and focus on the choices they currently have. If eventually they get off the WL it will be a happy occasion! But for now, do what you need to do to choose from among your current choices. If you don’t, and your WL school doesn’t come through, you will be in a much unhappier place come May 1.

Keep in mind too, often times, more movement happens on those wait lists AFTER May 1st, once schools see what their yield is. So definitely don’t give up hope. But you still need to accept somewhere by May 1 if your intent is to go to school in the Fall.

I will still be wishing that all come off of wait lists at their dream schools. But in the meantime, also hoping you can fall in love with one of your current choices in hand.

I do agree that there is no negative impact of coming off a wait list. Everyone is on equal footing from day 1.

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@MomofMTBoy - totally agree with that others are saying. Pretend BW is a “no”, start deep digging on acceptances, and make a deposit by May 1. There can be considerable WL movement into the summer. My S’s year, he was on BW WL until AFTER well into May. It ultimately became a “no”. We moved forward with decision as if it was off the table, but realistically discussed what we would do if it turned into a “yes”. S was glad to have the decision “done” by mid-late April and be able to get connected to the online accepted students group and “know” where he was going as his senior year wound down.