<p>I've seen reports on a few threads that Tulane, Duke, and Washington&Lee have already started to accept a few students off their waitlists. Before May 1st!</p>
<p>It's going to be a very interesting waitlist season.</p>
<p>Wow, that was fast!</p>
<p>so did Rice.</p>
<p>Add Cornell.</p>
<p>That's different from last year. The wait list movement was late....or non existent</p>
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<p>Riiiiiiiiight. Forgive me for not considering you at all credible for saying that the wait list was non-existent last year, and to be honest, that is not at all true.</p>
<p>Nope, you're not forgiven.</p>
<p>agoodfriend, andi has credible and well-documented experience with last year's waitlist activity. I doubt there are more than a handful of parents here on the Parents Forum who are unfamiliar with her son's story. You might want to do some research before you blurt out such inaccuracies. She did not say waitlists were non-existent last year, but that movement <em>off</em> of them, in her experience, was late or did not occur.</p>
<p>At least at the places where andison was WLed.</p>
<p>Well, true -- which is still a lot more credible than any of agoodfriend's posts so far.</p>
<p>This is very amusing. For MootMom's information, I have read Andi's story. (Funny that I did read that and still "blurted out." Maybe you should get your common sense straightened out before disparaging me). It is never good for someone to be WL'ed and rejected at many schools, but there is always a moral to the story. Better qualified applicants were accepted, so my sympathy is limited, but that is entirely besides the point.</p>
<p>The point is that her son had a bad experience at a few schools and didn't get off their WL. That's not taking into account all the other students who got off the WL at those schools, not counting all the thousands of other students who received admission from WL at all the hundreds of other schools. </p>
<p>You are taking an outrageously small sample size and making huge generalizations on it. If I knew two girls who voted for a Democrat, could I say that no girls ever vote for a Republican? If I knew two black students who received lower than a 1000 on their SATs, could I say all black students receive lower than 1000 on SATs? If I knew one student who didn't get off the WL at a few schools, could I say that the WL at all schools in America was non-existent?</p>
<p>It seems that Andi could get away with saying absolutely anything, and just because people have sympathy for something that happened last year many people will flock to her defense. To the people the criticized me, do you really believe that the wait list movement last year was non-existent? How could you possibly believe that? I personally know several people who received admission off the wait list last year. There are probably hundreds on CC alone. How can you say that? How could you criticize me? It only reflected poorly on yourself to criticize me for making a logical claim. It would be one thing if she said that her son had not experienced much luck, but instead she makes it seem like this year is radically different. It's not; it is overall basically the same every year. I expected some rationality on the Parent Forum. Instead all I get is childish, unsubstantiated, and petty criticism from people who consider themselves mature adults.</p>
<p>Judging from the posting on CC in the past two years, there was less waitlist movement last year than the previous year. It seems to me that colleges alternate years - one year they will use their waitlists, the next year, they will make "adjustments" so they don't go to their waitlist, then it starts over. </p>
<p>Purely anecdotal, but perhaps richs73cas or PapaChicken can provide more concrete evidence from the Common Data Sets.</p>
<p>Fireflyscout-</p>
<p>Overall there will be approximately the same number of students admitted off of WL last year and this year. The will be, of couse, several schools that have big changes- Duke of course this year because of the 'lacrosse scandal' (which is shaping up to be anything but that). Anyway, there are no big general shifts, as Andi said, trying to arouse a "woe is me" sympathy. Well, we are all sorry, but to be honest it wasn't completely unexpected and it was a year ago, and now your son is in at great schools. It is time to get over it, and is silly to make completely baseless comments that will confuse and misinform the many readers of these forums looking for information.</p>
<p>Don't take anything personal on this forum. However, you may want to sit with your back against the wall at the cafe.</p>
<p>Itstoomuch-</p>
<p>I'm not sure if that was directed at me, but I agree with you. My only problem is that I had a completely valid point, and if someone disagrees with me, that's fine. All I was saying is that it is very erroneous to say that the wait list movement was non-existent last year, something nearly everyone would agree with. If someone disagrees, that's fine, but they should say why. Instead I get these petty attacks in response that have absolutely no substance or relevance to the topic. People seem to take anything directly at Andi personally, and them proceed to attack the 'offender', though I did nothing wrong. I have reported them as offensive, not so much because I am hurt but because they are petty and useless to the discussion.</p>
<p>Also, blankman basically = agoodfriend.</p>
<p>you have a dubious sensitivity, goodfriend blankman, to write at first under an alias because you likely expect your comments to draw fire and then, when the tone and content of your post alarms the very parents you intend to rankle, complain when the bullets whizz by your offended head,..alas, you were itching for a fight because it makes you feel alive and so I welcome you to pick apart these words, attack my credibility and stand atop the hill of your defeated enemies waving your great illuminations,..</p>
<p>Waitlist movements are especially hard to predict. Given the extremely high yield at the schools listed on the pinnacle of the rankings, the wait lists do not yield "spectacular" results. On the other hand, schools that overshoot theri selectivity do use the waitlist. For instance, while Princeton and Yale did not take any students from the waitlist, Cornell took 209 students. So, looking at HYPS, the waitlist movements are quasi invisible, but lowering the focus by the smallest of degrees shows that substantial movements are quite discernible. </p>
<p>It's all a matter of where one looks to establish the criteria and the size of the blinders one wears. </p>
<p>Some figures from 2005-2006</p>
<p>Williams 23
Amherst 0
Swarthmore 18
Grinnell 30
Macalester 18</p>
<p>Yale 0
Princeton 0
Stanford 13
Cornell 209
Dartmouth 16
Brandeis 74
RPI 21</p>
<p>My goodness, people. Is it really worth all this mess? I don't know this "Andi" or her story, but from what I saw, all she did was make a simple statement about waitlists as she saw them. C'mon now. We ought not attack the woman for this. Its just crazy.</p>
<p>If you disagree, just say something like this:</p>
<p>"Oh, I dunno Andi. It could be we really DID have a bit of waitlist movement. You have anything solid on this?"</p>
<p>All this "You ain't credible" stuff just seems uneccessarily bitter to me. Unless I am missing something, I think SOMEBODY owes somebody else here an apology. (sheesh)</p>
<p>One factor that may affect a student's likelihood of being accepted from the waitlist is financial need. At many schools, aid is not available to students admitted from the waitlist, so a student whose family is able to pay full tuition has a better chance of clearing the waitlist than one who has financial need.</p>
<p>It's wise to consult individual schools about their policies regarding financial aid for students accepted from the waitlist.</p>