<p>When revising that list keeping talley, I got the call from the regional acceptance packet and then the acceptance letter in the mail shortly after. For all those who got the call but no letter, check on line. Some have received the acceptance that way and dont know it.</p>
<p>Now there are 7.</p>
<p>are any of those international students ?
by the way what are the chances of any international applicant getting in ?</p>
<p>I talked to one of the associate dean's assistants today, and he said that it was a mistake and that I was in at Wharton. Then a few hours later I checked outside and there was a big packet. It said welcome to Wharton! I'm really excited.</p>
<p>:confused:</p>
<p>omg congrats rooney! you deserve it after all that stress they put you through :)</p>
<p>:rolleyes:</p>
<p>My S was waitlisted at Princeton RD (accepted at Columbia, and he is going there). Does this mean he would have got into Princeton if he had applied ED?</p>
<p>ramaswami, really no one can tell for sure...but don't worry about it; it's over with and useless to dwell upon it.</p>
<p>juniorinhs, he wanted to apply ED to Princeton, his college counselor at school told him he was a shoo in at MIT, pressured him to apply EA there, was deferred, then rejected in regular round, then put on Princeton waitlist. He had many good choices, chose Columbia but one is haunted and I cannot but dwell on whether I should have overruled the counselor. Forgive the dwelling on the past scenario. Would you say that being on waitlist RD does not mean one would have got in ED? Or do you say that being on waitlist RD means one would have got in ED with the boost that that round receives? Thanks.</p>
<p>I don't think it can be generalized that applying ED would have guaranteed admission for someone waitlisted in the RD round. Your son could have applied to Princeton ED, been deferred to the RD round, and still been waitlisted (which I'm sure happens to many). And then you would be dwelling on whether you should have NOT overruled the counselor and given him a better shot at MIT. Bottom line is that admission to any school at this level (INCLUDING Columbia) is a MAJOR crap-shoot for even the best-credentialed applicants, and you should dwell on the terrific achievement of your son's admission to Columbia, and not on what-might-have-beens and second-guesses that can never really be known for sure.</p>
<p>You are right, but I am not generalizing. Just wondering aloud although deep down it may have happened exactly as you predicted, deferred at Pton, then waitlisted, rejected at MIT, then I would have wondered if we should have gone with the counselor.</p>
<p>But here is what I did not tell you: counselor said she knew Marilee Jones personally, knew Janet Rapelye at Pton personally, pulled out her resume which listed Janet as her personal and prof reference, so beguiled me into thinking she had a special pipeline, kept saying it is a done deal (used those words) it is a guarantee (used precisely those words) "you can shoot me if he doesn't get into MIT" ( I am contemplating taking her up on her offer!). </p>
<p>Is Columbia at that level? Is it very difficult to get into Columbia? I thought only HYPSM were really difficult.</p>
<p>SHOOT HER. j/k</p>
<p>Columbia is up there with the rest of them but of course Penn >>>> all.</p>
<p>I think I missed the part where this is relevant to Penn at all.</p>
<p>Are you kidding? Columbia is the hardest Ivy to get into. It has like a 9% acceptance rate. Take it, and run with it.</p>
<p>eastcoast 11, you made my day. I will show your post to my S today and we will drink to your health. Your post will bring a smile to him. Thanks.</p>
<p>Better yet, show him this:</p>
<p>and this:</p>
<p>And major congratulations to you both!</p>
<p>45percenter, thanks. So Columbia College had 8.9% with Harvard just behind at 8.97%. Great figures but my S got into SEAS which has a slightly higher acceptance rate. The overall figure, 10.4% makes it the 5th lowest acceptance rate, ahead of MIT. Some may claim MIT has a self-selecting pool but that can also be said of Columbia and UChicago. At the end of the day, one must go by overall rates, no?</p>
<p>I am curious: are those who apply to Harvard or Yale different from the pool that applies to MIT or columbia? I want to know if there are different applicant pools or is it largely the same 20,000 kids who apply to the same 20 top colleges.</p>
<p>It's not the same 20,000 kids, but there is a lot of overlap. Obviously, MIT will attract a higher proportion of kids who are science/engineering oriented than Harvard, Yale, or Columbia, but there certainly are significant numbers of those types of kids applying to the latter 3 schools.</p>
<p>I think you are missing a key piece. MIT and Columbia are both city schools. There are many who pick Columbia over lets say Princeton, Yale ect but that is because they want the experience of New York City. Columbia is an outstanding school and the acceptance rate was one of the lowest of all the ivy leagues. However Columbia appeals to a certain type of person. Harvard has a real campus feel and cambridge is a wonderful college experience. Columbia does not have the cohesive campus feel of some of the other ivy leagues. While the campus is small and beautiful many go outside the campus into the city for their social life. That results in a lack of school spirit and a sense of bonding and cohesiveness in the student body. One can walk around Harvard, or Princeton or Yale ect, and while the student body is diverse, one can still see large numbers of clean cut preppy students walking around in groups. Columbia is more international and more diverse and seems to attract a more independent, eclectic student body. The type of student who is attracted to MIT is probably very similar to the type of student who applies to Columbia. However those two schools are very different in campus expereince to Harvard, Princeton and the other ivy leagues.</p>
<p>I meant that there was a lack of cohesiveness, bonding and school spirit at Columbia</p>