<p>I just received notice from SC saying I'm on the wait list. I applied as a business major. For the wait list, they gave 2 options: (a) regular wait list; and (b) if space ls limited in Leavey, consider me for admission off the wait list as an undeclared major in the College of Arts and Science...and that, if I am admitted, I must wait until the end of my first year to re-apply as an internal transfer to Leavey. On the website, they say that it's really no big deal, as long as you have a 2.75 gpa, completed 2 quarters of 12 units per quarter when applying, but - that, for internal transfer students, it may take an additional quarter or 2 in order to get all the classes in.</p>
<p>If I go on the wait list only for Leavey, is it that much tougher? If I open it up to the College of Arts and Science, will the admission be easier?</p>
<p>Any insight on which is the best way to go is appreciated. I was admitted to LMU and Chapman, wait list at Pepperdine and USD...admit also at Oregon, Boulder, St. Mary's and UCSC, am leaning towards LMU but the Leavey school is appealing.</p>
<p>SAT: 1880
Weighted GPA: 3.8+
All honors/AP
27 ACT
4 years baseball and volleyball
intense music program
lots of volunteer work</p>
<p>Going on the other waitlist will definately increse ur chances…I’m doing the same thing as well and my stats are very similar to urs
3.9 gpa
1890 sat
26 act</p>
<p>I’m very surprised we did not get in as I have heard of people with 3.1’s to 3.4’s getting accepted and that is really irritating</p>
<p>I’m a freshman this year at SCU in undeclared arts and sciences, just got admitted to the honors program and am anticipating getting into Leavey as a transfer (knock on wood)–although my first choice is Georgetown next year. In general I’ve found the courses here to be pretty mild, looks like you could easily maintain a 2.75 through freshman year so I would definitely consider the internal transfer option after one year at SCU. With regards to the claim that you might need to spend extra quarters at SCU to complete the business degree, I would say absolutely not if you start the business school after one year of arts and sciences. All but one of my 12 classes this year count as core requirements that I would have had to take anyway as a business major, so I don’t see any way it’d take me longer than 4 years if I stay here all the way through. Best of luck, let me know if you have any more questions!</p>
<p>Buckey- D is turning down a spot a Leavy, so that is one opening at least. One reason is their VIP student program (is it called ACE?) that invites some incoming students to an honors type track, where they have various opportunites not available to other students. The selection process seems quite arbitrary, and she didn’t want to come in as a second class student.</p>
<p>^ I am sorry that your daughter feel bad. But isn’t it most colleges including UC/CSU have honor program that give those honor students registration priority, access to certain classes, some even offer special parking?</p>
<p>Honors at SCU is pretty distinguished; it’s about 5% of each grade and students get priority registration, a number of seminar-based honors-exclusive classes (including an honors-only senior thesis class), the best dorms to live in, more scholarship opportunities, etc.
I don’t think you could say, though, that regular students are second-class; besides, if you are really honors-worthy, it is easy to enter into the honors program.</p>
<p>An honors program that you can apply to is one thing- and the privileges are usually just higher level classes and a few perks. But you cant apply to the ace program, you are selected, and those picked seem to be true VIP students- "The ACE Program is a unique program designed to provide selected undergraduate business majors an education which blends academics with practice. The goal of the program is to create the business leaders of the future… (it) offers its corporate partners an innovative opportunity to connect with its best and brightest students. The mission of the ACE program is to develop young managers who can rise to leadership positions in a business environment driven by technology, globalism, and change. " Gosh, why isn’t that the goal for ALL students?</p>
<p>So, before you set foot in the school, you are deemed leader material or not, based on high school performance where we know we are not comparing apples to apples. In such a small school, I call that first and second class students.</p>
<p>If the program selected students after freshman year, or even after first semester, I would have no problem with it.</p>
<p>I don’t think you’ll have a problem with having to stay additional quarters to graduate.</p>
<p>SCU requires mandatory courses, and if you take them in the CAS, you won’t have to take them in the business school. If you successfully transfer, you will most likely not be behind anyone else because everyone else also had to take the required classes before.</p>
<p>Merryecho that’s a good point you bring up, but I wouldn’t get hung up on not being chosen for a program that less than 5% of the class is selected to be a part of. Honors is plenty selective already, and Leavey of course intends to make all its students competent business leaders (the spiel you quoted is so generic it is hardly worth judging). It’s true that the hierarchical structure seems unfair, but I dont think you can really escape that anywhere you go.</p>
<p>The ACE program has been revamped for the incoming class of 2014, people are no longer selected; if they would like to be a member of the ACE cohort for their grade level, they must apply after their freshman year.</p>
<p>WOWWWWW that is ridiculous, i wanted to do that!!!
oh well off to gtown, cant complain too much :)</p>
<p>I can’t speak to Leavey…but DD matriculated as an undeclared Arts and Sciences student four years ago. HOWEVER she wanted to be in engineering and knew it. Her freshman year, she took core courses AND the same sciencemath sequence the engineering students were taking (bio, chem, calculus). She successfully transferred to engineering after her freshman year. Not only is she graduating on time in June, but she also has a double major…bioengineering and biology.</p>