<p>Link to Common Data Set
<a href="http://www.williams.edu/admin/provost/ir/%5B/url%5D">http://www.williams.edu/admin/provost/ir/</a></p>
<p>2004
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List.....................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted........................51</p>
<p>2003
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List.....................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted........................39</p>
<p>2002
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List.............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List......................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted..........................1</p>
<p>2001
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List.............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List......................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted..........................7</p>
<p>2000
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List.............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List......................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.........................48
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted & Matriculated.....37</p>
<p>1999
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List.............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List......................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.........................NA</p>
<p>1998
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List............956
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List.....................515
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.........................42
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted & Matriculated.....28</p>
<p>While Williams has been more close mouthed about their wait-list management in recent Year Common Data Sets;
The 1998 and the 2000 Stats give us information that I haven't seen on other colleges reports before. Apparently 14 of the 42 offered admission off the wait-list turned them down in 1998 and 11 of the 48 offered admission off the wait-list turned them down in 2000.</p>
<p>I don't remember the stress being anywhere NEAR this bad when I applied to colleges in '69. The big question then was how much scholarship help you could get. Now we have the same number of schools, with many, many, more applicants (everyone is expected to go to college now). This is really tough on kids today, including mine. Thanks for you help.<br>
My question: What are the Waitlist stats on Brown, Wake Forest, University of Richmond, and GW? Sorry if any are repeats, but I looked and couldn't find these in your responses. THANKS!</p>
<p>Bates College &
Gettysburg College please......Thank You!</p>
<p>any clue if williams offers finaid to ppl who get off the waitlist?</p>
<p>kenyon, william and mary, and bucknell please?</p>
<p>richs, do u have the common data set for U PENN? thanks!</p>
<p>Occidental and Wellesley - Thanks!</p>
<p>Minnesota-Twin Cities?</p>
<p>GEORGETOWN PLEASE.. just wailisted today.. and upenn too!</p>
<p>Many request for stats on the
waitlisted schools have been
disclosed in prior posts on
this thread. Please ultilize the
threadsearch located in the upper
right corner below your login name.
Insert the name of the school & press
go. The search will bring back any
findings relative to the school in this
thread.</p>
<p>If you can't find any results, please
post your inquiries.</p>
<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=45272&page=6#goto_threadsearch%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=45272&page=6#goto_threadsearch</a></p>
<p>
[quote]
Here is an interesting stat. Muhlenberg accepted 1743 students & placed 1000 on the wait list. Muhlenberg total # of applicants = 4111. 67% of their applicants were either admitted or waitlisted, but yet USNews ranks them as a more difficult school to get into. Seriously, any school that considers 67% of their applicants as qualified perspective students can not be
more difficult to get in.
[/quote]
</p>
<p>I haven't read every post on all six pages, so someone may have answered this. I don't know anything about Muhlenberg, but I know a lot about waitlists, and this reflects a common misunderstanding. Colleges waitlist for a LOT of reasons, among the primary being that they do not want to insult a high school. Read any adcom book, such as the Gatekeepers, to understand why. It sends a message to the school in a variety of ways (such as, "This year's applicants were not good enough; you'd better send better applicants next year," or "Even though we are taking a lower ranked student than your val/sal/ etc., it is because we needed a URm/athlete/oboe player so he/she should not feel insulted."</p>
<p>The quote above implies that a school could or would take EVERYONE off the waitlist if only they had room, which is totally false. Waitlists aren't counted because so many schools put SO MANY kids on them....I know this as a fact from 15 years as an Ivy interviewer working closely with my friends and colleagues. Everyone on a waitlist is not necessarily qualified to get in, and the colleges KNOW who those kids are and KNOW they will never have to accept them, since they know the odds....</p>
<p>I know people will object to what I have said because it bursts a bubble, but the truth sometimes hurts.</p>
<p>voronwe </p>
<p>Thank you for your professional
imput. </p>
<p>"Everyone on a waitlist is not necessarily
qualified to get in, and the colleges KNOW
who those kids are and KNOW they will
never have to accept them"</p>
<p>Isn't the above reasoning unfair to the
students and their parents?</p>
<p>Why not just come out and reject those
students? A rejection letter @ least brings
closure, whereas, the waitlist extends
hope. </p>
<p>Allow me to use the anology of
a student being waitlisted is like
a Catholic being in pergatory.<br>
For all of you non-catholics,
pergatory is the status of your
soul after death, being between
heaven & hell.</p>
<p>Searching for the "Common Data Set" on their Web sites doesn't seem to bring them up.</p>
<p>US News Reports for the Class entering in Fall 2003</p>
<p>Brown University
2003
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List..........1400
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List....................450
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted.......................154</p>
<p>University of Pennsylvania
2003
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List...........1085
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List.....................533
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted........................18</p>
<p>Wake Forest University
2003
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List.....................NA
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted........................NA
While Wake Forest dosn't release Wait List Info, they do have interesting info in their Fact Books. Link <a href="http://www.wfu.edu/ir/factbook.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.wfu.edu/ir/factbook.html</a></p>
<p>Hey Rich, does US News have the numbers for Duke's waitlisted? Like you said earlier, there's no Common Data set on Duke's site, and I don't have access to the "premium" (ie: pay) content on the US News website.</p>
<p>What about Tufts? Can't find it anywhere, thanks</p>
<p>richs73cas, Thanks for the info for Northeastern. How did you find those stats btw?</p>
<p>Does anyone else know where the waitlist stats for Massachusetts College of Pharmacy-Boston can be found?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Common Data Set Link
<a href="http://www.bucknell.edu/Offices_Resources/Offices/Institutional_Research/Bucknells_Common_Data_Set.html%5B/url%5D">http://www.bucknell.edu/Offices_Resources/Offices/Institutional_Research/Bucknells_Common_Data_Set.html</a></p>
<p>2003
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List..........1768
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List.....................688
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted........................46</p>
<p>2002
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List...........1975
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List......................740
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted..........................0</p>
<p>2001
Number of qualified Applicants Placed on Wait List.............NA
Number Accepting a Place on the Wait List......................913
Number of wait-listed Students Admitted..........................81</p>
<p>wnydancemom - you are right Tuft's doesn't have the Common Data Set Posted on the Web and they don't give waitlist info to US News</p>
<p>zerox - Check out post #71 this thread to learn how I look up the Common Data Sets. </p>
<p>juba2jive - Duke doesn't have their waitlist info posted on the web, or on US News - it just has NA for No answer.</p>
<p>Wonder why some of the Colleges are holding back this information.</p>
<p>No Common Data Set Posted on Kenyons Web site</p>
<p>US News lists for Class entering 2003
Qualified applicants placed on waiting list: 580
Applicants accepting a place on waiting list: 212
Students enrolled from waiting list: 59</p>
<p>Duke University please?</p>