<p>I just found out I got waitlisted for LIBERAL ARTS! I was completely taken by surprise just because I have friends from last year and this year as well who have been admitted with far weaker stats than myself. I have a 3.76 (going to be at least a 3.8 by end of semester) a 28 on my ACT and am in the top 23% of my class (I'm thinking the class rank is what hurt me). I was also postponed at University of Wisconsin-Madison about a month ago as well, and though I kind of expected it for Madison, I was planning on getting into Minnesota and either going or having it as a backup if I don't get off Madison's waitlist. I'm feeling kind of lost now since Madison and Minnesota were my only two realisitic choices. I plan on calling Minnesota's admissions office on Monday but in the meantime, any insight about why I didn't get in?</p>
<p>Wow....that is unreal. I honestly wouldn't have a clue as to why not. Class rank really shouldn't be that important in my opinion as every school is different. With my GPA I could be top 5 percent at one school and top 25 percent at another. Your GPA looks good, it really is pretty bad that you weren't accepted right away.</p>
<p>I'm sorry to hear that you were waitlisted. I agree that you should call and ask. While I don't like to talk about stats, mine were almost identical to yours. I'm from oos and I was accepted to lib arts but waitlisted by Carlson.
Since they don't want much information about us on the application, there must be a fine line separating people by a fraction. Good luck and, if you want to, update this thread.</p>
<p>Fabalyss21 -- </p>
<p>Are you a Minnesota resident and/or reside in a state with reciprocal tuition agreements (such as WI, ND, IA)?</p>
<p>Possible Explanation #1: As a landgrant, state-funded university, preference is given to Minnesota residents. That is, your stats do not have to be anything close to what you have in order to be admitted as a state resident. If you reside in a state with reciprocal tuition agreements, you generally are considered among the Minnesota "pool" of students. </p>
<p>Possible Explanation #2: Minnesota has rolling admissions -- that is, it is first-come, first-served. All of your documents must be in-hand before your application is considered -- and it can take the university up to two weeks between when it actually receives your info and it is entered into the system. </p>
<p>There is a mid-May to June session as well as the longer summer session. There usually are more spaces available during those sessions. You should check this out but I believe that if you enroll in either session, you then qualify as a returning student in the fall.</p>
<p>Hope things work out for you!</p>
<p>I'm a Wisconsin student so I should be given abut the same preference as Mnnesota students, but obviously, that didn't help me.]</p>
<p>And get this... </p>
<p>I just found out that a boy in my class at my school with a 3.45 and 24 ACT was ADMITTED to Liberal Arts. We have about the same extracurriculars (mine may be a bit above his) , are of the same ethnicity, and the only real differece between us as applicants is that he applied earlier than me (about two months) and that he is male and I am female. SO INCONSISTENT! I called to get some more information and got what seemed like a generic speech about needing to keep room for the most qualified students and not overadmitting beacause of housing restrictions. When I brought up the inconsistency concerning the boy in my class, the person I was talking to took down his name and said there was an issue with inconsistency and that he would need to look in to it. However, he did not tell me where this left me or justify the inconsistency. According to my guidance counselor, he has never seen anyone with my stats waitlisted and UMN, and though he told the admissions officer this when he contacted him, I don't seem to be any further than I was before. Can they possibly get away with waitlisting me and admitting an obviously inferior student?</p>
<p>Yes, Isn't it up to the college to decide who the more qualified student is? Perhaps the student is a legacy, and wrote a compelling essay(not required). I'm not saying that I don't agree with you(I do), but you have to look at both sides, maybe they feel that he would be a great match. Also this other applicant will enroll, most likely, where you said UofM was your back up choice, maybe with fewer spots available they are trying to hook kids that have the highest enrollment possibility. 2 months is also a pretty long time in the application process, especially with rolling admissions. But then again, what do I know, I'm not an admissions counselor.</p>
<p>I am a parent, not an admissions couselor, so please take this with a grain of salt...</p>
<p>My understanding of rolling admissions is that it is stictly first-come, first-served, so long as the admissions requirements are met. While the other student may have inferior stats to yours, if his stats met the University's admissions minimum criteria, his application takes precedence over yours because of when he applied. Many students apply to the University as a back-up and go elsewhere, so it is possible that you could be admitted off of the waitlist.</p>
<p>There is no unfairness in this nor any insult to you. It's strictly a matter of the date when your application was received. Again, a lot of students are admitted from the waitlist because the University often is a safety for in-state residents.</p>
<p>I got waitlisted at CLA too.. Top 25%, 31 ACT, from Wisconsin.. Application completed by late October. x_x;</p>
<p>fabalyss21, if you came across half as arrogant in your app as you do on here, then it's no wonder that you didn't get in. Who are you to say that someone else is an obviously inferior student? 1.) The U of M is not a bad school, so 2.) you shouldn't have banked on it and 3.) It is up to the U of M admissions staff to decide who is qualified to get in because 4.) It's about building a class. The fact that this classmate of yours applied 2 months earlier shows that he had an interest in the U of M, which you clearly did not fully share, which could be what put him over the top. Furthermore, the fact that you even brought him up is just petty. Grow up, shape up, and stop trying to put yourself over everyone else.</p>
<p>fabalyss21- You did the right thing by calling to complain. Standing up for yourself now and in the future will help ensure your success. Don't ever accept the first hand that you're dealt. Good luck to you. George McClellan is thought by some historians to be the most arrogant general of the Civil War era. Even Abe Lincoln couldn't stand him.</p>
<p>That's a key issue for a rolling admission college: the earlier your application goes in, the better.</p>
<p>That's weird. I applied to CLA, thought I was tough and picked CLA for both first and section choice college on the application. I was accepted, but I called the admissions office and told them I wanted to change my college of entrance. They were pretty nice about it, considered my application again and sent me an IT acceptance by christmas. I find it weird that you guys are getting rejected/deferred from CLA.. the ACT I sent twin cities was a 31 and my GPA was only 3.787 at the time. Perhaps your course load is weak? I had 6 APs and all enhanced math/english, probably the defining point of my application. Send them your most recent grades, perhaps. Those of you who are deferred, that is. Good luck to all~</p>
<p>@ ddomino88 </p>
<p>George McClellan was removed from his position because he was too careful with his army, failing to attack at crucial points, no?</p>
<p>Sorry to start any sort of argument, and to come off as arrogant as I agree, I did. At the time of my first post I was VERY frustrated with college admissions as Minnesota was the second school to waitlist me, and obviously took it out somewhat on the school and on the boy in my class who got in over me. However, this boy will not even be attending Minnesota, so I guess that leaves a spot open for me ;). I do believe that Minnesota should be admitting the strongest applicants, but I now understand that he was admitted probably only because he applied before me. Living in Wisconsin, I am used to schools that open for admissions in mid-september, and was not aware that I had the option to apply any earlier than september 15th (the day I sent in my application) until after it was sent. This is entirely my fault and I will take the consequences for it, but I am also going to put in the work to make sure I am admitted. I really hope that I am not an arrogant person, but instead a student who works hard and is only frustrated with waitlist after waitlist.</p>
<p>This raises an interesting question: what is the official earliest date for submitting applications to the U of MN and other colleges of interest to you? I think NACAC is trying to discourage application dates from becoming any earlier than they already are.</p>
<p>basically the key to not getting waitlisted is applying early! I sent my application in Sept.15 and got accepted October 28. I applyed to general studies with a 3.3 gpa and a 21 ACT and i know people with 30 ACT and 3.5 getting rejected or waitlisted. The U is tougher in certain programs like the business school or technology, but I am just happy to be in!</p>
<p>WOW! What in the **<strong><em>. 3.65 gpa, 32 ACT. Waitlisted for CLA? How?
This is *</em></strong>ing bs.</p>
<p>Being put on a wait list should mean that the class is (possibly) already full. No college can predict yield (= what percentage of admitted students will enroll) exactly, but correspondingly no college can admit more students than it reasonably expects will enroll. If U of MN CLA has already promised spots to earlier applicants, later applicants have to see who will enroll at CLA before knowing if there is space there. Again, the moral of the story is to apply early to your favorite rolling admission colleges.</p>
<p>The U has already accepted a lot of people so thats probably the reason for everybody being thrown onto the waitlist! First come, first serve was the way I look at it.</p>
<p>That whole idea really is rather ridiculous. They claim that 12/15 is the "priority deadline" they should not mislead people who are applying. If they deny me who will they actually accept? They still need to uphold standards for people who have applied earlier. The University of Minnesota system is a mother ****ing joke</p>