<p>Does anyone know if Grinnell is going to be using its waitlist?</p>
<p>I have the same question.</p>
<p>I was waitlisted too, but told that I'm apparently "high priority" as I have a legacy. My GC and I spoke with head of admissions on Friday who said that, AT THAT TIME, it didn't seem likely they would be going to the waitlist, but said that could all change come Monday. I'm calling tomorrow to get an update...</p>
<p>I DESPERATELY want in at Grinnell though...I've done so much too. Had my GC/head of admissions call, written a new letter that speaks to why I want to attend, had a new rec mailed...I really hope I can get in.</p>
<p>Yeah, I actually got off of another school's waitlist late Friday and wanted to check in with Grinnell one more time before I commit to this school. I doubt they'll have an answer for me tomorrow morning, but seeing as my deadline for the other school is Monday, it's my only option =/</p>
<p>btw, good luck onilawliet!</p>
<p>Dude, I'm in the EXACT SAME predicament as you...I got removed from Connecticut College's waitlist last Thursday, and they've given me until Monday (gah, tomorrow!) to decide...That's the same time that my GC and I are calling Grinnell to see if there's any news...</p>
<p>What will likely happen for me is this: if Grinnell knows tomorrow, and says yes, then I will go without a doubt. I will seriously just say yes before the admissions rep can finish speaking. I'm so excited. If they say that they don't know for sure, then I will probably accept at Conn and still wait for Grinnell. If Grinnell ultimately says no, then to Conn I go, but I otherwise will keep on waiting...</p>
<p>What is the other school that accepted you?</p>
<p>I got in at Hamilton. I actually decided against calling Grinnell. I thought about it a lot and realized Hamilton is probably a better fit for me anyway. Hope things worked out for you. If not, Conn College is a great school -- my cousin goes there and is having a blast.</p>
<p>I called today, and the admissions rep told me that they over enrolled and they are sending back the people who got their deposits postmarked after may 1st.</p>
<p>soo basically they are not using the waitlist at all</p>
<p>Wait... Grinnell is turning away people who straight-out got in (not in off the waitlist)?</p>
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I called today, and the admissions rep told me that they over enrolled and they are sending back the people who got their deposits postmarked after may 1st.</p>
<p>soo basically they are not using the waitlist at all
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Are you serious? If they did this I'd be surprised if they don't end up pulling a Dartmouth and offering the kids they can't take 1 year deferred admission and frozen tuition.</p>
<p>Wow, they're sending back people whose deposits were postmarked after May 1? That's crazy. Now I'm just hoping mine didn't get lost in the mail.</p>
<p>wow, can they do that?</p>
<p>the rep told me that people who got in (as in really got in, not got in off the wait list) but postmarked their deposits after may 1st are being turned away.</p>
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wow, can they do that?
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An offer isn't really binding until a deposit is in, the award is finalized and the student is registered (and freshmen don't register until they're on campus in August), so any school could do this assuming they refund the deposit. It's been done before iirc, I just can't remember the schools. It's really not difficult to expel someone anyway, mostly it's the students who have to deal with binding legalities, not the schools.</p>
<p>well lucky for me i sent in my deposit around april 15th!</p>
<p>i'm soooooooo sorry for other people if this is indeed affecting them; i'm also sorry for those of you on the waitlist...best of luck, guys</p>
<p>I think the fact that Grinnell has "over-enrolled" is significant as it summarizes the intensity of this year's admissions climate fairly well. Remember that, from what I've read, Grinnell's yield is around 30%, and many applicants cross-apply to schools like Carleton, Amherst, and other top LACs. Given how competitive admissions have become, highly qualified applicants may have in a sense "settled" for Grinnell. Just read the "Waitlist success stories" thread on CCs main page. There are tons of waitlist stuff being posted there every day. One user and poster on the thread summarizes the waitlist situation that is occurring this year fairly well:</p>
<p>"If you think about it, with so many people waitlisted this year there's going to be a long cascading effect of people getting off the waitlist. Say X person was waitlisted at Harvard and accepted at Duke (and enrolled), and then was accepted off the waitlist at H say early May. They would then accept Harvard within the next few days, opening up another spot at Duke. Continuing with this, if Y person was accepted off the waitlist at Duke because of this new opening, the school they enrolled at would also now have a vacant spot which they would offer a few days later and this effect would continue down the universities, domino-like. Sorry if my phrasing is difficult to understand :S</p>
<p>What i'm trying to say is that this year the admission "season" will be even more extended than it has ever been, with the time lag between when a spot opens up and a new waitlist student accepts it. All i can say is try your best to continue to show your interest (in Duke in your case) and keep your fingers crossed. Waitlists are always very difficult to get off, but you never know."
(posted by Uphill Battle)</p>
<p>The scenario the poster presents can be applied to any highly competitive and selective college (such as Grinnell) to explain the waitlist and intensity of admissions.</p>
<p>Gah, this post is getting long, but I just thought I'd add in my own personal situation. I called Grinnell today who told me that they received an additional 55 deposits today, and that is was looking less and less likely that they would go to their waitlist, and advised me to deposit at another school. However, I was then emailed later on by an admissions rep I've been in contact with who told me that nothing is set in stone yet, and that spots may become available as late as mid summer (think June or July). These spots are made avaialble by students who accept a waitlist offer from another school, decide not to attend, etc.</p>
<p>Basically, there's still a lot of hope. The intensity of college admissions this year has allowed for hectic yield rates and waitlist percentages. I wouldn't expect any of it to settle down until late May at least. </p>
<p>And I personally see no problem in Grinnell refusing admission to a student whose deposit is mailed after the deadline. Admitted students are given a whole month to ponder their choices and make a decision. Mailing something with a postmark of May 1st isn't a lot to ask for, and though I'm sure there are special cases, students should respect Grinnell's wish for that deadline.</p>
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I think the fact that Grinnell has "over-enrolled" is significant as it summarizes the intensity of this year's admissions climate fairly well. Remember that, from what I've read, Grinnell's yield is around 30%, and many applicants cross-apply to schools like Carleton, Amherst, and other top LACs. Given how competitive admissions have become, highly qualified applicants may have in a sense "settled" for Grinnell. Just read the "Waitlist success stories" thread on CCs main page. There are tons of waitlist stuff being posted there every day. One user and poster on the thread summarizes the waitlist situation that is occurring this year fairly well:
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I suspect there are going to be enrollment issues at other schools this year, especially Midwestern LACs (which are often considered safeties for people looking at NE LACs and the Ivy league).</p>
<p>Also, with regards to the Duke case you (or someone else you're paraphrasing from) used as an example, if a student has enrolled and backs out it's not unheard of for the school to get in contact with the other school (assuming the person is stupid enough to tell Duke where they're going). I was warned of this, and I had an incredibly awkward situation where a school wanted me to break ED with Grinnell to go to them, and they said that schools revoke admission based on people breaking ED but they wouldn't (obviously).</p>
<p>I noticed it in a thread a few days ago about people sending deposits to multiple schools, but if you're doing binding ED at a school and back out for a reason that is not financial it's not unheard of for schools to get in contact with other schools, resulting in the school you were going to go to revoking their offer of admission. Now, breaking binding ED isn't the same as sending a deposit for enrollment since you're not signing a contract (a pretty much unenforcable contract, though), but it's probably worse. Admissions is pretty incestuous, everyone knows everyone else in my experience.</p>
<p>Are you really sure you want to wait until June or July when you'll be past deadlines at other schools yourself?</p>
<p>Yeah tetrishead, I'm pretty sure. I've mailed a deposit to ConnColl and will attend in the fall of 2008. If Grinnell comes through and admits me in July, then great, I will tell ConnColl that I have been admitted from a waitlist at another school and have chosen to attend it. I seriously love Grinnell that much and desperately want to attend. Now, if it was in late August that Grinnell contacted me...Well...I'd have an issue. </p>
<p>Like I said, the admissions rep ive been in contact with said that the above scenario is possible, and continued to say that my dedicated interest in the school ensures that I will be one of the first contacted.</p>
<p>I'm kind of hopeful for the future. One, because I plan to attend a fine school (Connecticut College) and two, there's a chance I may be admitted to my dream school. It's a win win situation for me and I'm happy either way if Grinnell is able to admit waitlisted students or not. :)</p>
<p>I hope you get into Grinnell, as I suspect you care more for the school than some other applicants that were accepted (although there's always cases of that).</p>
<p>^ I hate to sound insensitive, but I agree with that. As Uphill Battle mentions in the statement I quoted, a lot kids are likely settling for those top LACs that did manage to accept them, while waiting on a waitlist from Amherst, Williams, etc. </p>
<p>For example, take a brilliant, highly involved, impressive applicant from a strong high school in a suburb of Boston. He applies to essentially all of the top LACs, placing an interest in Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, etc. He finds that, come April, he has been rejected at Williams, waitlisted at Amherst, waitlisted at Midd, and accepted at Swarthmore, Pomona, and (just for fun!) Grinnell! Said student chooses Grinnell while waiting for a response from Amherst who, come mid May, admits him from their waitlist. Said student tells Grinnell that he has chosen another school, and a spot at Grinnell opens up.</p>
<p>The above is a very superficial, perhaps insensitive, but realistic scenario. With so much pressure to be admitted to name-brand prestigious schools, waitlists and rejections are allowing for impressive applicants to "settle" for slightly lesser known top LACs in places OUTSIDE of New England. Now, there are some who are different. A friend of mine turned down Middlebury, Swarthmore, and Stanford for Carleton, and people around him have no idea where Carleton is.</p>
<p>But even that is a rarity.</p>
<p>I really hope Grinnell somehow manages to look at their waitlist! Just out of curiosity, what do you plan on studying at Grinnell tetrishead?</p>
<p>I have no idea, although I lean towards economics, and I've long been a fan of the idea of double majoring in one thing that is pragmatic, and one thing that you enjoy purely for the study of it--which for me will probably be psychology, philosophy or history depending on the subjects and the professors.</p>
<p>I know what my first year schedule is going to look like (roughly), but I've just set five goals for my time at Grinnell, because I can't really have any idea what I'll concretely like: (1) GPA of 3.25+, (2) At least two internships and work on one research project in my chosen field, (3) Learning two of: French (alright at it, better writer than I am oral conversationalist), German (know very little), Mandarin (know none), (4) Spend a semester or preferably a full-year abroad (I like the idea of spending my third year at the London School of Economics, assuming I go the econ route), (5) Get better at programming (151+161+207), take math up through linear algebra at a minimum. I think if I can do these five things I'll generally have a good experience, and a good resume coming out of college. I also intend to play intercollegiate sports.</p>
<p>For what it's worth, I just got an e-mail telling me that I was waitlisted at Brown and they wanted an immediate response--and I didn't even know that I was waitlisted at Brown, and I kind of forgot I applied there even though I interviewed with someone who didn't speak English (which was... fascinating). Hopefully if they get to the waitlist there will be people who have already finalized their decisions and "given up," as it were.</p>
<p>What do you intend to study?</p>