<p>for business econ major.
I've read the posts here, and i'm seeing that my chances are really, really slim.
For one, i have 3.8gpa, but i'm pretty sure itll be a 3.7 after the fall semester.</p>
<p>biggest disadvantage is, i'm taking another math course then what i really should. I should be taking the analytical calc, but instead i am taking the life and science. As part of my personal statement, i wrote my reason for it..i said that my mathamatics is pretty weak, and that im taking 4 other heavy courses this sem, so that i would not be able to adequately study for this course, plus working..so that if i take the analytic course, i know it'll drop my gpa (but i didnt directly say it'll drop my gpa in personal statement. BTW, i have not submitted my applation yet). Is this a good idea?</p>
<p>im not sure what the TAP program is, but i never heard of it,..im guessing it shte honors course one? I never took those either -_- simply because it was not part of my pre-req and wouldve taken up my time to transfer.</p>
<p>other then that...what do u think of my chances are getting into ucla are? I really dont know what other business schools are good, other then berkeely, but thats ruled out because their pre-reqs are crazy..i can never finish them in time!</p>
<p>I've yet to personally meet a business major that has been admitted to either Berkeley or UCLA. I know the numbers for Berkeley admitted students are ridiculously, something like 5-10%. You have an above average GPA for the average admitted student when averaging all majors together. But I knew one CC student with a 3.9 with all prereqs completed that didn't get in. </p>
<p>I think TAP might have been inappropriate for you anyway. At my CC, most honors classes are introductory classes primarily used to complete IGETC or other GE requirements. I honestly don't know this: Do you complete IGETC or do business econ majors do something else?</p>
<p>I'm worried alittle about your personal statement. I mean, I personally wouldn't know how to explain something like that without sounding failurish. I actually had a similar situation with my essay and an advisor that I hired, and paid too much money, told me to take it off or come up with a really good explination. I don't know, but I don't think they'll like it if you just say that your math is weak.</p>
<p>wow...
i have heard that getting into the UCLA business department is difficult, but 5-10%?! Wow....i guess i'll really have to settle for a second alternative.</p>
<p>do u recommend any other schools other then LA for business? i alreeady have a CAP transfer agreement with davis, but davis is not known at ALL for business.</p>
<p>I think that it depends on where you live...i THINK That if u live near LA region then u can get a higher chance? of getting in? Becaues thats the same for me right now, cuz i live near davis, i have the CAP program. Have no clue though. I know that however, the Igetc program does not guarentee your admission to ucla business or berkeley..i think its just a pre-req or something. But i know for sure that it doesn't satisfy berkeley's business, cuz..man, there business pre-reqs are CRAZY..i know about being well-rounded, but 4 english classes for a business major!? -_-</p>
<p>i agree with u, im pretty skeptic about the personal statment part..but i dont know how else to explain it, should i give it a shot? Im worried that they'll see my transcript and go "what? she didnt take the required math course?" without an explanation, then it'll be obvious that its my mistake. Which is why I wanted to write my explanation..and it is pretty weak i admit, is it worth the shot to explain to them that if i take the analytic, my gpa would dropppp? </p>
<p>The 5-10% I was referring to was for Berkeley. I don't know what the percentage is for UCLA, but I'd guess it's alittle bit higher.</p>
<p>I'm afraid to advise you on the essay part. I only know about my major and my situation. I chose to mention something, but to ignore the negative part because I knew I could get away with it. I'm thinking it's harder to get away with something like a required math class. Talk to someone who would know... you may HAVE to address it. I just think they won't want an excuse where you say you're weak at math. </p>
<p>My understanding about business majors is that people care mostly where you got your MBA, not your BA. I know that Berkeley, for example, wants you to have a few years of experience prior to being admitted to their MBA program. </p>
<p>Davis is a good school. Be happy you have a safety.</p>
<p>I'm a Middle Eastern Studies major. I'm assuming, by asking what I ended up doing in the end, you're asking me what I chose to ignore. </p>
<p>I was in the Navy for seven years and I attended a school that could potentially have great bearing on my major. I chose to mention I attended this certain school, but did not mention a certain lack of success there. The original draft of my essay mentioned both my attendance and my failure but no explaination as to why I didn't have more success. My advisor said that unless I give a good explination as to why, it might be better to omit the negative portions. </p>
<p>In your case, I suspect you cannot do this. If there is a certain expectation, such as a required math class, they will have foreknowledge of your need and will be wondering why you didn't take that course. Any attempt to beguile them or avoid the subject would be futile.</p>
<p>Ohh, i get what you're saying now, thanks for the advice.
I guess I will just leave that part in ..
i dont think i can see any other good reason for me to "make up" why i couldnt take that math course, it was simply becase i know itll drop my gpa, although a friend did point out to me that if i write this, its essentially saying, "i took another course to get a higher gpa"..yep it is, but what can you do, eh?</p>
<p>Have you checked ASSIST for a transfer agreement between your school and UCLA? I agree on the issues with your essay. Schools want to see that you have challenged yourself and overcome and dominated. If I were you then I would write about a challenging work load and not being able to fit it into your schedule but that you have every intention to take the course at its next availability, even if you don't really plan on it. I don't think its a good idea to mention that your GPA would drop. You don't want to show your weakness.</p>
<p>As long as your GPA is at least a 3.8, when you apply, you should have a reasonable chance. </p>
<p>For Berkeley, the transfer rate last year was 8%. However, out out of the 12000 applicants that applied to Haas, only 467 had their applications reviewed because the rest did not meat the minimum requirements including taking prerequisite classes. 90 out of 467 applicants is about a 1 to 5 shot.</p>
<p>For economics at Berkeley, you seem like you would be accepted, depending on the rest of your application material.</p>
<p>I know someone who was accepted to Haas. However, she was an oustanding student who completed 98 units in two years, while taking care of three kids.</p>
<p>Thanks you guys for the advice,
I decided to leave that part as my personal statement..since I am shooting for UCLA, it'll at least give them some explanation.
I decided to drop berkeley's business though, hearing CC Studen'ts statistics, I havent even gotten all my pre-req's for berkeley finished yet so I'm out of the evalutating group almost automatically. But i did follow your advice, and signed up for berkeley's econ to see what happens....not even sure if i want to go to econ...but i'll give it a try ;)</p>
<p>btw, wow...98 units in two years, thats INTENSE.</p>
<p>I realize that you already submitted your application, but I would not recommend being a Business Economics or Economics major if you lack mathematical understanding. All of the UC's have very math-based Economics programs. The UCLA Business Economics major is not a typical business major; it is basically economics with a few business classes (such as finance and entrepreneurship), not the other way around. If you do not take the correct math class, you will have a very low chance of being admitted because there are plenty of 4.0's that apply to BizEcon with all the correct prereq's completed. UCLA also has an accounting minor which you can supplement to any major you choose, I believe it is a much more practical route to take to get into UCLA and garner some business skills (it has the same prereq's as BizEcon though). Haas has a business curriculum, but it is still very difficult to get in even if you complete all the prerequisites.</p>
<p>thanks for the insight veritas ;) i am okay with mathamatics, its just the heavy analytical stuff that really starts getting me nervous..ie: analytical calculus !</p>
<p>I have a Q, if anyone knows the answer to this.
I am starting to plan ahead..if i do not get accepted this year, i want to stay one more year and try again. This will be my junior year then though, thus i will be applying for...senior year? Would I still be able to transfer? I think i will stay within that...maximum 90 units.</p>
<p>So, for spring 2005, i will plan on taking some honors courses, but do they still apply to me (my college has some agreement with UCLA, where if u take 5 honors courses, u get preference), but im not sure if that applies ONLY for junior year? If not, i want to start thinking about taking honors courses!</p>
<p>If you're at a community college it does not matter how many units you acquire, you will always be considered to be a junior transfer at a community college (this was confirmed with a UC Berkeley Representative).The Junior and Senior status only pertains to students who attend four-year schools.</p>
<p>I believe that applies to four-year students, who at which point, would be considered seniors. There is a limit on how many courses you can get credit for once you transfer though... I think its 70-80 or something. </p>
<p>Also, as a reply to your previous response, your econ classes will be employ a great amount of analytical problems. I have been practicing from problems from upper-division classes at Berkeley in which the math used in the class actually exceeds the minimum requirements for the class (Analytic Geometry and Calculus II). I have spoken to a colleague in my Psych class who was an Econ undergrad at UCI (she is preparing for a M.A. in Psychology) and she says the same for her institution.</p>
<p>yeahhh~thats great! ah....great..analytical math...hmm, i really wouldnt know what major to take then, if i wanted to go to accounting..not econ, but back to business?</p>