<p>I don't know if anyone has commented on this article on this forum, but it's a little reality check for Ivymania.</p>
<p>no one said it wasnt possible for non ivy. lol. ivy just helps a lot.</p>
<p>My dad graduated from Cal State Fullerton, and now he has Harvard MBA's begging him for a job. A ivy deploma does not mean much if you are not a motivated and smart working individual.</p>
<p>ivys are so selective people who get in thinks they are all that. people who apply/want to get in are also people who think sometimes too highly of themselves. this snobbery sometimes keep them from climbing to the top. and another thing is that they usual have higher starting pays than any other colleges. but these people never end up making much more. maybe they were to satisfied? i dunno. but if u note, a graduate from Wayne State mite be making 10,000 per year to start while a Harvard MBA mite be making 100,000 to start. but that MBA never gets to the CEO level. </p>
<p>people often spend so much energy on "getting into" Ivies that they lack effort in other areas such as social skills. especially true of MIT people haha.</p>
<p>I'll take my chances with a Harvard MBA over a Wayne State MBA any day. There's always going to be exceptions to the rule, but on the average an Ivy league graduate is going to have more success than someone from a state university. There's millions of more graduates from state schools than Ivy league so by the rules of probability there are going to be state school graduates in the top jobs. Anyways, the TOP students at state schools are just as good as those at Ivies. But there are also 20,000 other students that are not.</p>
<p>Right. Ivy League schools are still overrepresented among CEO's and a huge percentage of CEO's have Harvard MBA's.</p>
<p>a common complaint among MBA recruiters is that ivy MBA's "want to jump into the vice president position and run the company already" when they have not proven themselves at a lower management position yet. a little overambitious and need a reality check sometimes. nevertheless, the ivy MBA's are usually more qualified than most.</p>
<p>but also note the "american dream" phenonmenon.... sometimes, those who start out disadvantaged might have the best ideas. they might not have had the opportunity to go to the best school, but because of their situation, theyre more determined, more creative, they think outside the box, and have entrepreneural minds... they know the real world and they know what hard work and determination means. they are rare but they are out there.</p>
<p>MIT isnt an Ivy.</p>
<p>two big players in business in our area have degrees in electrical engineering & computer science- the other doesn't have a degree at all.
(Amazon & Microsoft)
(REI)- mechanical enginering
( Starbucks) communications
( Adobe) bachelor from Brooklyn college- I can't find what he majored in
How many CEOs actually have an MBA and how many are just out of the box thinkers?</p>
<p>"a graduate from Wayne State mite be making 10,000 per year to start while a Harvard MBA mite be making 100,000 to start. but that MBA never gets to the CEO level." </p>
<p>That is probably true, but if that Harvard student went to Wayne State he would probably be making that low salary for a long time, whereas going to Harvard gives him a better advantage even if he will not be a CEO. Also, not everyone has to be a CEO in order to be sucessful. </p>
<p>Obviously you do not need to go to an Ivy League to be sucessful. You could say that you do not even need to go to college, as there are many business leaders that never graduated. But no one argues that a college eduaction is important and helpful. Its the same thing with the Ivy League. It is not essential in becoming sucessful, but it sure does help.</p>
<p>What helps mostly is being smart and hardworking enough to get into an Ivy. Those traits are always handy when mixed with good people skills.</p>
<p>The Harvard MBA never gets to the CEO level???????????</p>