<p>YES, AP’s will do a lot of things the 6 ap test i passed are going to give me 16 units of credit enough to maintain what you call “softball schedule” through out all 4 years </p>
<p>btw medical schools dont care how hard your courseload is as long as you get a high GPA and MCAT</p>
<p>read myths 4 and 5, this is coming from a Rhodes Scholar</p>
<p>Don’t limit yourself to 13 units a semester, as you continue to do 13 units your TeleBEARS will suffer and you won’t get into your courses.</p>
<p>Most people who come here have at least 20 AP/IB units, so you are already at a great unit disadvantage. If you intend on taking 13 units each semester after your first, you will not be able to get into your classes, because all your peers who are taking standard loads (or larger than standard loads) will have earlier TeleBEARS than you and fill up your classes.</p>
<p>Planning on 13 units a semester after your first semester is utterly foolish.</p>
<p>Read: Harvard Med School “One semester of the requirement may be fulfilled by AP credit for Calculus AB if your score was 4 or 5, or the full year’s requirement may be fulfilled by AP credit for Calculus BC if your score was 4 or 5.”</p>
<p>sure, if you’re only going to apply for med school at Harvard that’s a fantastic idea!</p>
<p>every school has different requirements, so its better to be safe to take it.
UCLA DGSOM for example.</p>
<p>Read: “MATHEMATICS One year of college mathematics to include the study of introductory calculus and statistics”
“AP credit will not be accepted for completion of required courses.”</p>
<p>anon2528462: can you elaborate more on the Telebears priority for class registration i still do not get the system.</p>
<p>chaosrecon: i have researched this there are very few medical schools that req. math that do not accept AP credit for it. they either dont require it at all or accept ap credit. you are partially right some schools such as UCLA, UCI, and UC Davis but UCSD accept AP credit and require math. UCSF has no math req. and but for the most part i really do not want to take more math except probably stats. personally taking 1 or 2 more math classes at Cal seems real dreadful because i just dont like math much (i know theres going to be lots of math when i take physics) and id rather not take any if that means applying to 3 less medical schools. personally for medical school id love to go to east coast.</p>
<p>do whatever you want man its your four years. though remember, as a California applicant you generally want to apply very broadly (25-30+ schools). if you don’t think its worth it, then you don’t need to do it.</p>
<p>chaosrecon: believe i know how competive medical school is (5% average acceptance rate for individual school and 4X% to atleast one of the many you applied to)</p>
<p>can anyone tell me about the telebears class registration priority i dont get how taking less units will give you less priority i thought priority came with ELC and academic status. dosent it go: </p>
<p>freshman: 0-29 units
sopomore: 30-59
junior: 60-89
senior: 90+</p>
<p>13x2= 26 unit+16 from ap= 42= Sopomore
13x4= 52 unit+16 from ap= 68= Junior
13x6= 78 unit+ 16 from ap=94= Senior</p>
<p>what is the problem i may face in telebears from what anon2528462 said. can some elaborate?</p>
<p>honestly, AP classes serve no purpose besides inflating one’s self esteem and giving you a “junior level standing” (which almost everyone is told they have when they enter Berkeley…making it meaningless).</p>
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<p>Stop w/ the rhodes scholar from 2002 already… Besides the fact that the letter is outdated by eight years (in which time AMCAS, MCAT, and the process have changed), myths 4 & 5 refer to taking too many units…not too few. Taking 13 units per semester and getting a high GPA is not unmanageable and the worst students should be able to handle a light course load like that.</p>
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<p>the less units you take the lower your priority is. The lower your priority is, the later you can sign up for popular classes. The later that you can sign up for popular classes, the less likely it is that you will be able to enroll in classes like Chem 3A/L, Bio 1A/L, ect.</p>
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<p>that’s a bad plan…take the damn math class, it’s really not that hard. Again, you say you want a challenge but you jump through so many hoops just to avoid one.</p>
<p>It’s great that you’re doing research now but make sure to get information that’s accurate, current, and in line with the path of successful applicants.</p>
<p>OP, you need to take more units. You’re AP units are WEAK. Most people have a lot more than 16 units.</p>
<p>For TeleBEARS you have three levels (Education, Non-AP, and Future (TeleBEARS)). I will ignore education, as I am unclear what exactly it does. Your Non-AP level is defined by your number of UC/CC units, and is essentially the 0-30, 30-60, 60-90, 90-120 scheme. Your Non-AP level does not look at AP units, and will determine the non-calendar week during which you have your phase 1 and 2 appointments. Taking 13 units a semester will keep you off-sync of this, thus you should be taking 15 units or more a semester, to keep your non-AP level proceeding on track. Your Future level includes your AP units, and people are organized within their Non-AP level by their Future level and their total unit totals (AP/IB/UC/CC). Keeping your Non-AP level at what it is supposed to be or better is key, your plan does not do that.</p>
<p>If you take 13 units a semester, you will not get any of your classes and your planned schedule will crumble into pieces. Also, to be frank, your AP/IB units suck. Most people will have ****loads more than you. Most people have at least 20. People who complete an IB diploma in high school get 20 units right away if they accrued at least 30 points on their diploma.</p>
<p>Also, I strongly suggest you take Math 16A-B.</p>
<p>Lol MCAT and GPA are not everything.
With my own ears, I heard a professor from UCSF’s admissions committee say that students who spend all their time on MCATs were pretty misguided. There’s so many other factors: research, ECs, personal statement, interview. He ranked the latter 3 as more important.
Just to pad my appeal to authority, it was in a seminar hosted by an MCB dean.</p>
<p>I think you should be more open-minded. College is really different on the inside than from the outside. Just roll with it.</p>
<p>AP counts for nothing unless you didn’t take enough
I think average is 25-35 credits?</p>
<p>@chaos recon: Who the heck applies to 25+ schools? ■■■■■.</p>
<p>what i meant was that my 6 ap test have given me 16 units to keep pace with the 13 unit per semester to graduate. and also most of you guys forgot that i am taking 4 more ap test in may so i may have 30+ units by the time i enter Berkeley in the fall. </p>
<p>leftist: thanks for explaining the system to me. but im pretty flexible are you saying that i wont get the classes at the times i prefer or i wont have the chance to ever be enrolled in the classes regardless of personal preference? </p>
<p>123456789bc: thanks for calling me out, your right i want a challenge yet im avoiding into calculus i guess i thought i was above math because i got a 5. i think i will take 16A-B. how hard is that series? </p>
<p>indiscreet: i know that GPA and MCAT arent everything but those account for about half your app and those will probably get you invited to interviews, i know that i need to volunteer, join a club, do shadowing, i think it is evident by this thread that i do a lot of research on this matter. btw chaosrecon is not a ■■■■■ you are suppose to apply very broadly because medical school is so competitive. </p>
<p>as for all of the posters: Ill take 13 units in the fall and ill see what happens next. i think i should stop planning so far ahead.</p>
<p>Your final statement “Ill take 13 units in the fall and ill see what happens next. i think i should stop planning so far ahead.” is your best plan of all. </p>
<p>College is a place for learning and expanding your horizons. Take some classes that don’t directly contribute to your major and premed needs, it can be very rewarding. Plenty of students will take Filippenko’s Astronomy 10 or C10 class that he conducts once a year because he is a great teacher and makes the subject fascinating. Take a class with a nobel laureate or explore some subject just because it intrigues you.</p>
<p>You will not get into your classes period, these classes fill up completely very fast, and if your TeleBEARS is **** (which yours will be be if you follow your 13 unit plan) you won’t even have a shot at any lab/discussion. You should be intending 15/+ units a semester.</p>
<p>BS. Med schools do not care that much about course rigor as long as your GPA is high. How else do sociology/psychology majors get into med schools?</p>
<p>Want to get into UCSF/Hahvahd/Hopkins med? Go to a grade inflated undergraduate school that is not completely unknown and provides you with good research/shadowing etc. opportunities, take the easiest possible course load, get a 4.0. Spend one entire summer preparing for the MCAT (10 hours a day), get a 38 or higher. Spend all the rest of your time focusing on ECs/research and try to get a few publications. Show passion and some modesty on the interview and you’re in.</p>
<p>I agree with whoever said that MCB at Berkeley isn’t as hard as people make it out to be. The weeder courses are meant to weed out the weak students. Those of you who actually do deserve to get into med school should get an A without stressing out too much. A lot of people cry that they have studies for two weeks before each Bio1A etc. midterm and still got a B. I have seen the way those people study: going to the library and spending 8 hours on facebook =/= studying. Studying is when you devote all your concentration to the material. Do that for two weeks before a midterm and you will get an A+ or an A if you had a bad day.</p>
<p>plenty of people apply to 25+ schools. its because california schools are damn hard to get into. now go back to crossroads and easy classes, freshman</p>
<p>Leftist: im calling BS on what you posted. i will get into those premed courses</p>
<p>for example for spring 2010
Bio 1B had no limit, 703 people enrolled, 0 waitlisted, as for lab and discussions there was plenty of seats available to accomdate all those people</p>
<p>Chem 3B had a limit of 523, 522 enrolled and one section actually cancelled because of lack of people and again there was plenty of lab seats available in the 3BL course</p>
<p>Physics 8B had a limit of 154, 151 enrolled and again plenty of seats in the lab and discussion</p>
<p>do you really want me to go on and on?</p>
<p>Tastybeef: can you chime in on this enrollment problem Leftist thinks im going to have? You seem pretty experienced with UC Berkeley affairs.</p>
