<p>Here's my dilemma. I LOVE Wash U. and really want to apply early there, as I think that would be my only chance of getting in. However, I am a fairly qualified student and do think I have some sort of possibility of getting into an Ivy League school such as Yale or Brown, which are also two schools I really really like. Those schools don't have ED but if I get in ED to Wash U, and I get in regular to those Ivies I think I would hate myself if I screwed up my opportunity to go to the Ivy. Do I take the risk and apply regular to Wash u. or comfortably apply early without ever giving myself that chance to go to an Ivy League school?</p>
<p>If you love Wash U, that's where you should apply ED. If you don't think you could live with the what-ifs, then I suggest that you don't apply anywhere ED and instead concentrate on writing the best RD applications that you can.</p>
<p>ED should not be used as an admissions gamble; instead, it should be reserved for a school that you'd attend in a heartbeat, over all others.</p>
<p>Please get rid of the idea that IVY LEAGUE schools are the seven best schools. It is just name for their sports league(I don't know from when) and they happend to be all excellent schools.
WashU is also a fantabulous school where numerous students who turn down IVY acceptances attend.
Just as other top colleges had gained super-prestigious image, Duke, for example, WashU is in that stage which it deserves.</p>
<p>I agree with the above posters ... but doesn't Brown have ED?</p>
<p>Yale has SCEA...which in many respects is better than ED, since you can decide not to go later on.</p>
<p>There are 8 ivy league schools</p>
<p>Brown has ED</p>
<p>NEVER apply ED to a school unless you will go there regardless of any outcome at any other school.</p>
<p>Im scared of doing ED, percisely because if something happens I dont want to be doomed to community college (if u refuse after being accepted your undergraduate is screwed worse than having a 1000/2400 SAT) so im going to apply EA to like 5 colleges, see if i get accepted, if not then apply to some more in RD</p>
<p>If you refuse an Ivy ED, you won't be "doomed". The college admissions office will just make sure all the other ivies + MIT + stanford know that you violated your ED agreement (which results in an automatic rejection from all the other ivies you apply to). The Ivies publish a list that they circulate with each other.</p>
<p>Since Yale and Brown are more competitive than Wash U, how would you have a better chance getting in there, if you think the only way you can get into Wash U is by applying ED?</p>
<p>"If you refuse an Ivy ED, you won't be "doomed". The college admissions office will just make sure all the other ivies + MIT + stanford know that you violated your ED agreement (which results in an automatic rejection from all the other ivies you apply to). The Ivies publish a list that they circulate with each other."</p>
<p>-There was quite a lengthy discussion about this here not too long ago. Do you have any proof of this so-called 'list'? An "automatic rejection"... really? That's pure nonsense. Why are you spreading this fear of the ED bogeyman?</p>
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<p>if you really do LOVE wash. u then apply there ED. however it sounds like you're not completely sure about it, especially because you're drawn to other schools. also, if you get in ED you'll have to withdraw all your other apps and will never know what you would have gotten into. but how do you think you'll get into yale if you don't think you will at wash u RD?
ED can be a great thing if you know you've done a lot of researching and know your first choice.</p>
<p>The fact that you love WU means something...I have a hundred people here at Hopkins that want out.</p>
<p>kk19131----</p>
<p>First of all, I know because I asked a Columbia admissions dean. Secondly, beyond the fact that it's incredibly unethical, your high school guidance counselor will know if you violate your ED agreement. Many high schools make sure you don't. Last year at my high school, someone violated Yale SCEA. After the acceptance (both Yale and MIT accepted her), both schools withdrew their acceptance and our guidance counselor was severely berated by Yale. We had 0 acceptances from yale RD and we usually get 5-6 (including 12 Princetons, 10 Columbias, 6 Harvard, 9 Brown, etc). </p>
<p>You do know for a fact that all the IVies publish their early admits though right? Read the Ivy ED plan fine print. Ivies have to release their decision on the same day as well, and Ivies will automatically rescind acceptances when they found out of a SCEA/ED violation.</p>
<p>I'm not going to argue with you- you really don't know what you're talking about.</p>
<p>If you want to get a more in-depth view of ED, then read the posts on this thread: <a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=369059%5B/url%5D">http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?t=369059</a></p>
<p>KK, I know that the argument rages in the link you provide, but some of us DO know what we're talking about when we state that the elite colleges share their ED lists. </p>
<p>Advice to those who think they can get away with it: either don't do it, or gamble with your college career so we can have a test case on CC. (Hint -- go with the first option.)</p>
<p>Uh, just wondering: if you could get into Yale or Brown RD, then wouldn't the boost from ED to WUStL be unnecesary? It's EASIER to get into, not harder...</p>
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<p>Ok... That's well-known public information. I don't see the words "list" or "automatic rejection" anywhere in that link. </p>
<p>"but some of us DO know what we're talking about when we state that the elite colleges share their ED lists."</p>
<p>-And all I ask for is proof. It's one thing to BELIEVE something, but it's another thing to KNOW something. One takes proof; the other, not so much...</p>