<p>College admissions certainly has its twists and turns. My D wants to double major in business and music - vocal. She is admitted to music at UW-Madison and UDenver-Lamont School of Music. Had a live audition at IU but not accepted to music, but was accepted to their business school. (Found out from university general admission office that IU frowns on double degrees, which D wrote on her music app personal statement that she wanted to do.) When visiting Denver, we found out business school frowns on double major with music. At Madison, she would have to apply to competitive business school at the end of her freshman year with no guarantees.</p>
<p>Last week D was admitted to Wash U. in St. Louis, one of the most selective universities in the country. They have a very small music department - only 30 students majoring in music, but 500 students take private lessons. U. is very flexible about degrees and double majors as is music dept. Music courses are not restricted to music majors. We visited last fall and D LOVES the university, but we observed a choir rehearsal and were disappointed. The opera workshop class was decent and students were very friendly to D. Her biggest concern is finding a good voice teacher. I know this is unlikely, but does anyone know anything about voice teachers at Wash U.? Daughter doesn't plan a career in music. Instead a life long passion and avocation.</p>
<p>Any suggestions, etc. would be appreciated.
Thanks.</p>
<p>If you dont get a response here, try the Midwest Forum on the NFCS.net site. Lots of professional singers there who can at least recommend a private teacher in St Louis.</p>
<p>GVMom, back in '01 when my son applied as a dual perf/mus ed major, Lamont was very supportive and had a specific dual degree five year program for that concentration. My memory may be faulty, but I had the impression there were no issues, at least back then about cross discipline degrees with the U Denver academic degree offerings.</p>
<p>In scanning the site now, I'm surprised they now do not even have a music ed program, and references to doubles and duals seem to be fairly deeply buried.</p>
<p>I did come across two links you may or may not have seen </p>
<p>DU</a> | Lamont School of Music | University Program which is a BA/MA combo, but it is a Masters of Business in Arts Admin, which may be too narrow a focus for her needs, but I thought it worth pointing out.</p>
<p>Programs do evolve and change over time, something all should consider in reading/researching some of the earlier posts.</p>
<p>I know when I visited WashU in the fall, I was just about laughed at by the orchestra conductor when I indicated that I might want to also major in music. It was a major factor which turned me off of the school (I have been accepted, but anticipate declining the offer). The music program is definitely a secondary concern (even where it is located is rather off of the main campus). However, I would imagine that your daughter would probably be able to find a voice teacher in the area that would suit her, even if the teacher were elsewhere.<br>
However, given your daughter's interests (and overall love of the school), that may be the right place for her. As an engineering/music type, I thought that both aspects of the school were really not as intense as I would have liked and while it was a nice school, it was not a good match for me.</p>
<p>Wash U was the very first college we visited for son. He is interested only in places where he can double major. Wash U came up over and over again, at the top of the list, whenever he searched various sites (beginning almost two years ago) for colleges that matched his interests.</p>
<p>Their website, their college literature, and various college-review books made it seem like a perfect match for my son. We couldn't wait to visit and see it all in person.</p>
<p>Upon visiting, we had an experience similar to yours. The choir rehearsal was less than inspiring, to say the least. We ran into maybe four or five school of music students and asked them, separately, about their experience at Wash U's school of music. Not one of them was enthusiastic. All of them were lukewarm. Son and I clarified with each of them, like, "You seem kind of lukewarm about your experience here. Am I reading that right?" And each one of them, questioned separately, said that we were getting the right impression! None of them was disgusted or disgruntled. But none of them were loving their experience. None of them were passionate. All of them said their music experience did not meet their expectations! I think they were talking about the personal music education, the music opportunities, maybe the status of the music school there on campus? Not really sure. It's been a while. But son and I both got the impression that the students we met were not in love with what they were doing.</p>
<p>Unlike your daughter, my son DOES want to pursue music as a career. So he decided not to apply there. There were so many other schools we visited where the students absolutely loved what they were doing on campus.</p>
<p>No advice here, unfortunately. Just an explanation of our very limited one-day experience with Wash U. Everything else about our visit was quite impressive and inspiring, by the way.</p>
<p>Luckily, there's something for everybody out there. Wash U turned out to be less than a perfect match for my son.</p>