"We actively recruit lower-income students to come to Yale" -- Dean Brenzel

<p>^But you have to also acknowledge that many of the students who got matched with a college through QB have much less spectacular stats than the regular applicants, but because they explained that they came from disadvanged backgrounds on their QB app, their other attributes might have made up for the SATs and GPA. </p>

<p>[National</a> College Match Program: 2008 College Match Recipient Profile](<a href=“http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2013/stats.html]National”>http://www.questbridge.org/students/profiles_class2013/stats.html)</p>

<p>It is also true that low income students do have a lower admission rate, I think.</p>

<p>hmmm interesting … so DON’T mention low income and chances are better?</p>

<p>^doubt it. the admissions rate among low income students is probably lower BECAUSE they are lower-performing (in part due to their background)
you have to take that into consideration. you can’t say the quality is the same across socioeconomic groups</p>

<p>pigs: your mistaken as to the purpose of QB. It’s a FANTASTIC vehicle for top performing kids from impoverished backgrounds to be matched with some of the best colleges in America. Without QB, many of these kids would not have applied to anywhere near the types of schools that participate in QB. For the college participants, they benefit as well. Since the QB application process is frankly, more rigorous than Yale’s admissions package, QB removes some of the hesitancy for schools like Yale in offering admissions.</p>

<p>FYI: even those that weren’t offered match thru QB with Yale, Yale still courted those who had been identified through QB and ended up making a good number of admit offers through RD to QB finalists who originally didn’t match Yale.</p>

<p>I recruit in some underserved schools and I’m PREACHING to the GCs to get QB into their kids’ minds. It’s a tool that I know Yale values greatly.</p>

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<p>grammar correction: you’re</p>

<p>ughhh biggest pet peeve is when ppl use “your” in the wrong context</p>

<p>^You seems to be very interested in grammar. < Did I make a mistake?</p>

<p>The QuestBridge Match rate is very low, only about 2% for schools like Stanford and Yale and 10% all around. However, QuestBridge finalists have an acceptance rate of far over 40% in the regular decision round, for a total acceptance rate of 60%. That’s far better than 7.5%.</p>

<p>pigs, thank u for being my editor. I hope you find the ideas I proffer to be useful for you as well.</p>

<p>You mentioned that it doesn’t help to call attn to oneself if one comes from an impoverished background. What? If it’s so, then state so. </p>

<p>Go tell that to the colleges that spend $100s of thousands of dollars looking for these exact kids. QB has been a boon for them.</p>

<p>Stanford took twice as many students from QB this year as they did last year, and they spit out a chunk of change - plus a full ride for all of us - to do so.</p>

<p>So T26E4, because I haven’t mentioned low-income anywhere on my essay or apps, should I tell them? Or will they know by checking with FA?</p>

<p>Problem: What do you define as low income? My mother is low income and she makes 25,000 a year. my father is high income and he makes between 70 - 75. But somebody is calling 70 - 75 low, and 40,000 low.</p>

<p>the usual measure for low income is “pell grant eligible” which these days is a family income of less than $45,000.</p>

<p>The word is getting out slowly for lower-income applicants that the top schools will provide a full ride. I would expect that low income applicants & accepts will continue to increase.</p>

<p>The federal definition of low-income is 150% of the poverty line or less. The federal cut-off for means-tested benefits is 185% of the poverty line. At schools like Stanford and Yale, low-income is often considered $60,000 or less per year. However, be careful because the median income last year was $56,000 - so according to Yale or Stanford, more than half of all people in the United States are “low-income.” On CC, $75,000 or so is considered middle-income, which is possibly the reality, but so is $200,000 (most certainly NOT middle-income), so be careful.</p>

<p>On the other hand, keep this in mind. At Stanford, about 15% of students are considered low-income. 51% of students do not receive any financial aid, which is guaranteed through $100,000 and offered through $200,000.</p>

<p>“The word is getting out slowly for lower-income applicants that the top schools will provide a full ride. I would expect that low income applicants & accepts will continue to increase.”</p>

<p>I doubt it, and with the current economic situation especially</p>

<p>speedo: Yale is anticipating increased apps from lower to mid income applicants expressly due to the economic times and their knowledge of Yale’s generous FA. The 2nd tier privates that can’t match a Y or H (and others’) generosity-- now those aren’t gonna see any uptick in apps from lower income students.</p>

<p>the enrollment rate for low income - pell grant apps hasn’t moved much in recent years, still under 10%. I doubt it will go any higher</p>

<p>Err guys!! I am very sorry to say this, and I should not even utter it.
Harvard can PAY for more students than Yale HAS students.
Harvard SENT emails last year thru so many people about their lovely financial aid.
Harvard eagerly and agressively recruits low income students. </p>

<p>Yale tries. This is the problem: not everyone in Yale would talk to you about their application. It is that insignificant/sensitive.</p>

<p>^“not everyone in eyale would talk to you about their application”
what does that mean?</p>

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<p>I have often wondered if, in their search for diamonds in the rough, they pass up diamonds that are well-polished, well-displayed and ready to be picked. I figure the logic would be, those polished diamonds will be picked up by someone or the other.</p>