We are so lucky that we live in CA...

<p>It wasn't just at Santa Monica College, bro: same tuition for all of them (they all changed at the same time too).</p>

<p>I wish Westley Ran in the last term :-(</p>

<p>If Angelides becomes governor it will be lowered to $11. UC tuition will be lowered significantly as well!</p>

<p>Vote DEMOCRATIC.</p>

<p>... and let our all-powerful teacher's union turn this state into France or Germany? Hell no. California is dictated by the teacher's union; so ironic. The Governator's propositions last year were some of the best (except for the Nurses proposition) for the fiscal future of this state. Only if Arnold had been against it! </p>

<p>Most poli sci majors will tell u that all this partisanship and extreme right wing and left wing groups are cause of gerrymandering (which he tryied to fix).</p>

<p>Try to get to reality: California is an extremely liberal state.</p>

<p>Voters utterly rejected the propositions; they were useless, waste of money.</p>

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What was a waste of money? Which proposition? And how? If anything, it was rejected because of Arnold's bluster and the "special" election; voters were annoyed at Arnold.</p>

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I myself am also a bit leftish, but I'm a traditional California Republican (socially liberal, fiscally responsible! )

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<p>So that means you're a voter without a party? ;)</p>

<p>Exactly!!! I hate the fact that traditional California Republicans are becoming marginalized and extinct whereas the extreme far right dominate the agenda. </p>

<p>The fact that Issues such as partial-birth abortion could determine a president is ridiculous.</p>

<p>Too bad for you that the Libertarian Party is a joke</p>

<p>Sucks to be a Republican with 1940s ideals. Hahah</p>

<p>lol. We're not dead and a perfect example would be none other than Arnold himself (although his name as a powerful force to create change has been largely discredited). A lot of very conservative Republicans distrust his views and never liked his election.</p>

<p>Don't forget, I'm referring to California Republicans not Republicans on the national level.</p>

<p>Back to the debate over schools I think something was over looked.... how many IVY league professors teach at their local CC'S... I know all of us Cali C'C'Rs can atest to the large amount of UC and CSU professors we have at our CC's.</p>

<p>ya good point ijflexi.....</p>

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Without a doubt, California has one the highest per capita incomes (lol, although I'm not gonna dig through a bunch of pages looking for it), but I remember reading that it was higher than most states (excluding the super mineral rich, but less populated states like Alaska)... But, one reason why land is so expensive here (even though we got a lot more of it).

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<p>It certainly isn't the highest that's for sure...if you're going to sit here and say that it's more expensive to live in CA and salaries are higher, etc... as compared to NYC... you're out of your freakin mind...you have no clue how expensive real estate is in NYC and the surrounding areas...(long island, north jersey, etc)</p>

<p>Scom yes. 30 to 40 year old unrennovated houses in the metropolitan area cost well over $200k. Meanwhile beautiful, newly built houses I've seen in Arizona cost around the mid 100ks. It's amazing.</p>

<p>did a quick google on "most expensive city"</p>

<p><a href="http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/toptens/expensivecities/expensivecities.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.soyouwanna.com/site/toptens/expensivecities/expensivecities.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>worldwide...</p>

<p><a href="http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://www.citymayors.com/features/cost_survey.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>nyc 13th in the world...</p>

<p>The Americas
New York remains the most expensive city in North America, at 13th position in the rankings (score 100). Other costly cities include Los Angeles ranked 44 (86.7), San Francisco in 50th place (84.9) and Chicago in 52nd position (84.6). Washington DC takes 78th place (77.4). Winston Salem is the cheapest US city surveyed, ranked 119th (66.6). “Many of the US cities surveyed have fallen in the rankings due to the weakening of the dollar against the Euro, Canadian dollar and Asian Pacific currencies,” commented Ms Sepede.</p>

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Scom yes. 30 to 40 year old unrennovated houses in the metropolitan area cost well over $200k. Meanwhile beautiful, newly built houses I've seen in Arizona cost around the mid 100ks. It's amazing.

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<p>200k? the house i live in is modest in size...i'm located in central jersey...about 40 mins. outside of nyc... the house is 30 years old and worth well over 500k...property lines are about 20 feet wide by about 50 feet deep...</p>

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It certainly isn't the highest that's for sure...if you're going to sit here and say that it's more expensive to live in CA and salaries are higher, etc... as compared to NYC... you're out of your freakin mind...you have no clue how expensive real estate is in NYC and the surrounding areas...(long island, north jersey, etc)

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<p>Try me. 2000 sq. feet will cost you upwards of $750K in the San Fernando Valley. And that's not even in the nicest parts. According to the NYTimes, the average home in Long Island is $300,000 to $400,000.</p>

<p>Sources:</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fernando_Valley%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fernando_Valley&lt;/a>
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E07E4D71138F933A15752C0A9649C8B63%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E07E4D71138F933A15752C0A9649C8B63&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

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Try me. 2000 sq. feet will cost you upwards of $750K in the San Fernando Valley. And that's not even in the nicest parts. According to the NYTimes, the average home in Long Island is $300,000 to $400,000.</p>

<p>Sources:</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fernando_Valley%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Fernando_Valley&lt;/a>
<a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...2C0A9649C8B%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...2C0A9649C8B&lt;/a> 63 </p>

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<p>read the above post...</p>

<p>game over.</p>

<p>Wow. Way to not even bother trying to argue using decent statistical analysis. </p>

<p>Bravo, champ.</p>