<p>Yosup, Black peni s trying to **** you.</p>
<p>Ohh crap sorry!! Yeah, I meant those classes AND engineering 101. 17 credits + 1 from UROP if I get accepted…so 18 total.</p>
<p>Thanks very much for the advice! If you think it’ll be too hard, I’m thinking about switching out bio for something easier so pleaseee let me know!</p>
<p>lolol at the post above</p>
<p>I knew a guy who took Engr 100 (one of the ****ty sections), Bio 171, Chem 210/211, and Math 116, and I think he was fine. I don’t know what grades he got in everything but I think he did pretty well, and that schedule is harder than what you’re planning. You’ll be fine.</p>
<p>wait is engin100 the programming class? Also, I remember someone saying a while back about how engin101 was the more social one cause there is more group work. Am I correct in both sentences?</p>
<p>You’re wrong in both. 101 is the programming class, 100 is the one with group work.</p>
<p>lol kdawgg23,
yosup, make sure u dont screw around then you should be fine. You’d still have alot of time to do other things. Don’t take my word for it though; it all come down to how much you can handle and how well you keep up with the coursework.</p>
<p>Ok thanks…would you give the same advice if I swapped out bio for English? How hard are English classes usually at U of M? I was thinking about taking bio later on so I can remember stuff for the mcat.</p>
<p>Something like 125, I really have no idea. I can tell you, great books people tell me has an insane amount of reading.</p>
<p>I imagine 125 isn’t too hard, because they make everyone take it, except those smart honors people.</p>
<p>Most students in great books don’t actually read, only some do.
chem 125 is a super super super hard class in that they grade your lab reports very strictly. The exams are super reasonable though. Fall 2008 (my semester) average was a C/C+</p>
<p>chem 125 is bad lol, i have not seen anyone who got an A in that class. A friend got an A-, just one. I thought i was in good shape when i scored a 99% on the first exam, turns out that i ended up getting a B in the class. the average is definitely C+ or less.</p>
<p>english 125, people say its pretty bad. Why would you take that? take a psy class or something</p>
<p>^Yosup wants to be premed. </p>
<p>So 125 is averaged at a C+ or C and then the grade is doubled for 126? Maybe it was better that I took orgo then?</p>
<p>I actually got an A in 125. :)</p>
<p>oh i thought he wants to be an engineer.</p>
<p>qwerty, i think even if u took 125, u would still do well cuz u already know most of the chem stuff.</p>
<p>blackpen, thats definitely rare lol but then why are u btching about the grading lol</p>
<p>Yeah, I had a C+ going into the 1st exam. Then I started treating it like a 5 credit course (rather than a 2 credit course like it is) and turned things around. Ended with a 90%, which they somehow made into an A.</p>
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<p>Curves only get more lenient after 401 and 402 (both approx. B- averages), which are considered the second round of weedout courses for Econ. Doesn’t necessarily become easier to get good grades because the proportion of not-so-bright people goes down.</p>
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<p>Is considered one… B- average? Never took it.</p>
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<p>Isn’t too bad – ENG 125 has about a B average maybe?</p>
<p>yea I wanted to do pre-med and engineering both. So do you guys think I should wait a little longer to take bio (to be ready fro the mcat)?</p>
<p>If you feel you need a class to prepare you for the MCAT, you should wait. However, if you feel that you have the discipline to review without the pressure of the class, you don’t have to wait. In fact, it would be quite beneficial to gain repeated exposure to the topic over a long period of time. Intro bio (excuse me while Captain Obvious intervenes) is the gateway to the more difficult bio courses that will either cover the same material in more detail or different, much more difficult material altogether (or both). Either way, a solid knowledge of the fundamentals is required (and by that I mean expected and helpful, but not actually required, strictly speaking) for these courses and when you go back to review for the MCAT, the biology will seem basic compared to what you’re used to. Another way to accomplish this is going balls-to-the-wall and taking graduate bio courses with nothing but AP bio as a prerequisite (that’s what I did, but not with that reason in mind).</p>
<p>While we’re on the subject, I’ve heard that Bio 225 (animal physiology) is incredibly useful with regards to preparing for the MCAT. Biochem is useful for tying all the typical premed stuff (organic chemistry, hormonal regulation and signaling, really basic physics, genetics, etc.) together which can be useful for memory retention and seeing the ‘big picture’ about how all these things interact with one another in your body, which is actually really cool. If you actually take biochem, remember this as it turns memorizing ridiculously large amounts of information into an experience quite unlike what people typically think of when they think of memorizing ridiculously large amounts of information.</p>
<p>On the other hand, if you are in engineering, saving intro bio for blowoff courses would be a good idea.</p>
<p>Yeah, I won’t really have room for extra courses. I think Biochem is required though, so I’ll take that for sure. But what do you mean by…</p>
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<p>Take blowoff classes instead, and wait until later to take bio? Except I probably won’t have room to take blowoff classes if I wanna get the pre-med stuff done before senior year :(</p>
<p>I meant that in comparison to the engin courses I’ve seen, intro bio is easy. So, if you are going to have a tough 3rd, 4th, or 5th semester, you could save intro bio until then.</p>
<p>Oh, awesome!! If its easy, I guess I’ll take it first sem. It’ll give me a little better idea of whats involved in medicine (so I can be 100% sure of what I wanna do), and I’ll get another req out of the way.</p>